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MontanaHatchet said:
That was the sound of me having a stroke.

This is the sound of me repeatedly banging my head on a wall.

WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU COMPARE A PS3 GAME ON A 21 MILLION USERBASE WHICH IS THE SEQUEL TO A 2 MILLION SELLING GAME WITH SONY ADVERTISING RELEASED IN FEBRUARY TO A 360 GAME ON A 26 MILLION USERBASE WHICH IS THE SEQUEL TO A 5.5 MILLION SELLING GAME WITH MICROSOFT ADVERTISING RELEASED IN NOVEMBER?

Sorry for caps and bold. But that is one of the most ridiculous comparisons I have ever seen.

I suppose Halo Wars failed as well?



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That GT Sony sales thread (started by Leo-J even!!) has some pure gems. Apart from the confuzzling over sales versus shipped, we got these:

"leo-305 said: , and a HALO bundle was released to stop the boost from killzone, that did not work.


REALLY?! WTF?!?! Did Microsoft do that? What a sneaky rude bastards they are!!! I already hate Microsoft and their sneaky monopoly unethical way of doing business but this makes me even hate them more!!! GOD I fucking hate Microsoft!!![QUOTE=leo-305], and a HALO bundle was released to stop the boost from killzone, that did not work.[/QUOTE] REALLY?! WTF?!?! Did Microsoft do that? What a sneaky rude bastards they are!!! I already hate Microsoft and their sneaky monopoly unethical way of doing business but this makes me even hate them more!!! GOD I fucking hate Microsoft!!!"

"wow thats really weak i guess it failed in a way im sure it will sell well but didnt it apparently have like over 1 million pre orders. also halo wars just barely came out today first day 190,000 thats really good especially for an RTS.
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"VGChartz has a standard error deviation of 450,000 units which means Killzone 2 could have sold anywhere between 0 and the number it says. That's why it's not a reliable source by any means. VGChartz should be boycotted."



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Esmoreit said:
That GT Sony sales thread (started by Leo-J even!!) has some pure gems. Apart from the confuzzling over sales versus shipped, we got these:

"leo-305 said: , and a HALO bundle was released to stop the boost from killzone, that did not work.


REALLY?! WTF?!?! Did Microsoft do that? What a sneaky rude bastards they are!!! I already hate Microsoft and their sneaky monopoly unethical way of doing business but this makes me even hate them more!!! GOD I fucking hate Microsoft!!![QUOTE=leo-305], and a HALO bundle was released to stop the boost from killzone, that did not work.[/QUOTE] REALLY?! WTF?!?! Did Microsoft do that? What a sneaky rude bastards they are!!! I already hate Microsoft and their sneaky monopoly unethical way of doing business but this makes me even hate them more!!! GOD I fucking hate Microsoft!!!"

"wow thats really weak i guess it failed in a way im sure it will sell well but didnt it apparently have like over 1 million pre orders. also halo wars just barely came out today first day 190,000 thats really good especially for an RTS.
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"VGChartz has a standard error deviation of 450,000 units which means Killzone 2 could have sold anywhere between 0 and the number it says. That's why it's not a reliable source by any means. VGChartz should be boycotted."

So that's where he went! Send him a PM and tell him to get the fuck back here.



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@ Kantor

I don't have an account there, and I can't barely stand the ignorance of that place so no, sorry. Feel obliged to go ahead though if you like. His name is Leo3 something, and he still sports the same avatar.

What I gathered from the comments though Leo is still bashing VGC (apart from this time when it shows the PS3 on top.)



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^Oh god, you're right. I'm looking for his thread (I have an account for some reason, never posted), and I clicked on ONE thread, oh god, the ignorance and sheer STUPIDITY!

Nobody should complain about trolling on VGC, because there hardly is any.



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Here is the thread: http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/749543

Don't hurt your head while going in there... should still provide a few laughs and facepalms.



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KZ2 sells around 370k in Europe first week. KZ2 worldwide first week sales will be around 750k in total.



^It is shocking how so many people hate VGC because they don't know the difference between sold and shipped...



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Kantor said:
MontanaHatchet said:
That was the sound of me having a stroke.

This is the sound of me repeatedly banging my head on a wall.

WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU COMPARE A PS3 GAME ON A 21 MILLION USERBASE WHICH IS THE SEQUEL TO A 2 MILLION SELLING GAME WITH SONY ADVERTISING RELEASED IN FEBRUARY TO A 360 GAME ON A 26 MILLION USERBASE WHICH IS THE SEQUEL TO A 5.5 MILLION SELLING GAME WITH MICROSOFT ADVERTISING RELEASED IN NOVEMBER?

Sorry for caps and bold. But that is one of the most ridiculous comparisons I have ever seen.

I suppose Halo Wars failed as well?

Firstly - Others.

Ps3 current userbase: 9.9M

X360 userbase on GeoW 2 launch: 8.5M

 

GeoW 2 sold: 589K

Killzone 2 sold: 372K

 

Penetration rates:

Killzone 2: 3.75%

GeoW 2:  6.92%

 

That's a major difference, so I can see why people who expected it to sell ala GeoW 2 are dissapointed. After all, it seems to be of an equally large production cost.

 

So that part of your question is pretty much meaningless. It actually works the opposite way of what you said.

 

 

Then I feel that KZ2 was advertised as much as GeoW 2, but I live in Norway, so this is anedoctal. Still, one of Sony's best advertised games.

 

I agree with you that it was silly to believe KZ2 would match GeoW WW, but several people expected it to do so in Others.



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

It looks like 750k is on the mark in regards to KZ2 first week sales. A good start for the game. Europe/Others sells around half the total of FPS games on PS3, America accounts for the other half.

To calculate the total Lifetime sales of Kill Zone 2. I take the first week total and multiply it by 3 or 4 and that would project its lifetime sales gives a total of 2 750k times 3 gives 2.25 million or 750k times by 4 gives 3 million sales.

The X360 ratio of FPS game sales are more lopsided in favour of America dominating Europe/Others by a wide margin.

Japan not sure if the game was even released there. FPS games do not sell in Japan very well and I believe FPS shooters are wasted on the Japanese. Gears of War 2 was not even released in Japan. Gears of War selling only 20k in Japan killed off the idea of launching Gears of War 2 in Japan. Why launch a game that does not even break 100k sales in a region? I see no point.