By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Gaming - Does buying a game does give you the right to be CRITICAL of it?

DEYM!!!!! so thats how bad fanboys in this site are I would probly get axed if i say that IMO I prefer Uncharted over gears even tho I own both and finished them both.



Around the Network

Just so people in this thread know what was going on in that thread, here is the original OP, not the completely edited one you see now if you check the thread.

His opinions were fine on the game, but let me know if you can spot where he made his mistake.

Garnett said:


First of all im not trolling,i actually bought this game,Second it has better graphics than Gears 2.

Ok onto the rant,Singleplayer is average like the other shooting games this generation(except R2)and i like the fact that the game has no installs,big plus.



Online is pure ass,simple as that,The gun has sway so its near impossible to shoot a moving target (Which is 90% of the enemy team)and it takes like 5-6 shots to kill someone,and the sway does NOT help,The shotgun takes like a half a second to actually shoot,the time it takes to pump it back is around 4 seconds while does NOT help.



How ever the shotgun is the best shotgun iv seen in any game,each shot does like 20 little BB's which is realistic and the spread isnt horrible like L4D,The SMG is weaker than the ASSault rifle,it takes longer to killsomone and has more recoil.

Online is garbage,they shouldnt of keep the sway in the damn game and if they did they shouldnt of made it 5-6 shots to killsomeone ,And i strongly this game would be better on 360 since more people have Mics,while the 360 lacks the feature to have clans.



This game isnt worth my money i paid for it,and how the hell was 15fps ok for a shooter? Oh cause its on PS3,If it was the other way around it would be hell for 360 fans,saying how the 360 couldnt even run the game proper,I only lagged a few times and if the online doesnt improve in a few days im returning it.

There is my rant/review of the game.



No actually this game does suck ass..

Remember to highlight


He was pretty much only attacked for that last paragraph, not his review. He repeatedly goes on in the thread saying people are calling him a troll because he doesn't like the controls but at that point nobody was getting on him what so ever about controls. CGI calls him out on the 15fps comment and Garnett responds saying CGI is just blinded by the hype.


*sigh*

You guys can take it as you want. If you choose to believe a review should include what PS3 fanboys would say if this game was on the 360 or that 15fps is ok because it is on PS3, then that is your problem.


I just thought it would only be fair to let everyone know what the thread in question really contained. That is all I have to contribute to this thread.



iPhone = Great gaming device. Don't agree? Who cares, because you're wrong.

Currently playing:

Final Fantasy VI (iOS), Final Fantasy: Record Keeper (iOS) & Dragon Quest V (iOS)     

    

Got a retro room? Post it here!

Hell no.

Being critical of a game only works if it's constructive. And you can not be critical, constructive or not, unless you've personally played whatever part of the game you're being critical of.



Being critical does not mean being insulting. You have to be careful because it can be a fine line.

Sometimes people drive up to that line, then blast across it. That is when they get into trouble.

The key is to remember that these are your perceptions and may not (or may) reflect those of other people. If you express things as how you see it -- and mind your manners -- you can be a lot more critical than you realize without getting in trouble and causing others to take offense.




      


I am Mario.


I like to jump around, and would lead a fairly serene and aimless existence if it weren't for my friends always getting into trouble. I love to help out, even when it puts me at risk. I seem to make friends with people who just can't stay out of trouble.

Wii Friend Code: 1624 6601 1126 1492

NNID: Mike_INTV

DMeisterJ said:
Hell no.

Being critical of a game only works if it's constructive. And you can not be critical, constructive or not, unless you've personally played whatever part of the game you're being critical of.

This doesn't require buying: one could try the game at a friend's or at a shop, or get enough infos from a review whose author he knows as reliable, and like it (or be reasonably sure he'll like it), but finding a serious issue, he could like to make developers know he wants to be sure it will be solved within a reasonable term before buying it.

Anyhow I agree that excluding reviews that one can consider reliable and as unbiased as humanly possible, at least according to his tastes, constructive criticism requires in every other case playing the game.



Stwike him, Centuwion. Stwike him vewy wuffly! (Pontius Pilate, "Life of Brian")
A fart without stink is like a sky without stars.
TGS, Third Grade Shooter: brand new genre invented by Kevin Butler exclusively for Natal WiiToo Kinect. PEW! PEW-PEW-PEW! 
 


Around the Network
CGI-Quality said:
@ Euphoria/DMJ

Agreed! @ Euphoria: and that's another reason I said he was trolling, because he was insulting the game, not because he didn't like it. Regardless, J-Man, do you know the difference between an honest complaint/dislike and an unneccesary label of a game:

Case in point: "I did not like the feel of the controls" - this wouldn't have warranted a defense force from fans of KZ2 such as myself & Euphoria! But:
"F-you FAILZONE" is not only unnecessary criticism and labeling, but for all intents and purposes, it's TROLLING! Now, tell me, what don't you unterstand about that?

 

I know I said I wasn't going to add anything else to this thread but I have to comment on the highlighted part here.

What I was saying in that thread had nothing to do with being a fan of Killzone 2, I openly admit myself that the multiplayer pisses me off to no end. It it gets better as you level up and gain new classes, which takes forever, for me anyways. Single player is beyond awesome though in my opinion.

It was 2 things to be honest.

#1. I didn't like the pre-emptive strike on the PS3 fanbase in the final paragraph and gave my opinion on the whole thing and of course called it out. There is zero need what so ever for that in what is supposed to be a review. It made it worse when he called you blind because you didn't experience these same "issues" that he did, as though his opinion was absolute. Not sure if it was that thread or if it was Garnett I would need to check but I am fairly certain it even went to the point where it was said that "99% of the people are blinded by the hype".

#2. He did not clarify that his 15-20fps comment was "drops" or "steady" and I called him out on that too. He ended up meaning drops, so i'll leave it at that in hopes that he claifies much better next time. It is his job as the thread creator to clarify what everything in his thread means, not our job to figure it out.

Everything else was perfectly fine, I know that no game is going to get universal praise. Unless is "Super Mario Bros. 3" of course.



iPhone = Great gaming device. Don't agree? Who cares, because you're wrong.

Currently playing:

Final Fantasy VI (iOS), Final Fantasy: Record Keeper (iOS) & Dragon Quest V (iOS)     

    

Got a retro room? Post it here!

CGI-Quality said:
@ Euphoria

Whats funny is now that I re-read that, I meant to say PS3 fans not KZ2 fans because his comment was addressed to mainly PS3 fans. My error.

 

No problem man.

As much as I disliked it I came to terms with Garnett later on in the thread and we actually got along quite well.



iPhone = Great gaming device. Don't agree? Who cares, because you're wrong.

Currently playing:

Final Fantasy VI (iOS), Final Fantasy: Record Keeper (iOS) & Dragon Quest V (iOS)     

    

Got a retro room? Post it here!

Kantor said:
papflesje said:
I think that the dude who keeps referring to himself as j man because of some personality disorder has to read the post made by the one possibly referring to a star trek persona because he not only tells the "i like to talk about myself in the third person because it makes me special"person pretty much what it's about, but also what the self-mentioning J boy did wrong in his OP.

Are you aware that nobody has any idea what the hell you just said? Wait, let me try.

So J-man needs to read a post by...Squilliam? Where?

Who is this Star Trek persona of whom you speak?

 

J boy needs to read (beam me up) scottie's post :)



Phoenix_Wiight said:
idk.... i bought bioshock and thought it was a straight out average game (85/100) and people flamed me for not saying it was an AAA game.

i try to be as unbiased as possible when I rate stuff too

Just so you don't think your alone.  I think that Bioshock isn't AAA, but I didn't realize that until I finished it.  The chambers that brings you back to life make the Big Daddy's as scarry as a teddy bear.  You know if you die, you will just be brought back in the nearest life chamber (can't remember the proper name).  Prey was worse in that regard.  When you died in that game, you went thru a little minigame where you shot spirits and then your are revived in the exact spot you died (unless it was a fall or other environmental hazard).

 




 

well, the criticism is coming from both sides in those threads.

sure it's fine to state your opinion that a game can be bad (no matter what hype it received), but you better expect to hear from the people that think the game is good.

or should we expect to have the forums managed in such a way that there was one thread for "____ game sucks" and one thread for "____ game is awesome" and no one would be allowed to post in both threads and if you posted in the contrary to title then you'd be banned.

freedom of speech, yes?