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WereKitten on 03 March 2009
Gnizmo said:
antfromtashkent said:
@gnizmo
"Becuase it was a bullshit premise that makes no sense. The KZ2 trailer doesn't show any gameplay footage either, and leaves you with no idea what kind of game it will be. This is true of damn near every game in existence. You don't have a point."

The problem with that is that Halo is a long running FPS.... and yes if you really looked into it you can find out that HaloWars is a RTS.....yes you can return it if you get it and its not what you were expecting.... but why put you customers through that? that is where the question of morality comes in...This game is NOTHING like its "predasessors" and the question here is not that people are too stupid to find out about what they are buying... its that the trailer looks like a FPS... not an RTS.... and there is no reason for that....

The first time i saw a trailer for Little Big Planet i dint know what to think it was going to be... But LBP was not a name for a FPS in the past... so weather MS is trying to sell a couple of extra copies of something based on its name... or im looking into this too much... but i still see no trolling by the OP.... and i do not agree with the trailer....

 If by look into it you mean flip the box over then I agree. the only ones affected by this are people who buy purely on brand name without a single though to anything else. In a world where Mario, Sonic, Crash, ad a billion other easily recognizable game names have been used for racing, platforming, fighting, and a million other game ideas it is meaningless. Nothing resembling a significant percentage of people will buy this game without knowing what it is. Less than 1%. There is no point.

 

Anecdotes don't make statistics, but while I was at a local Gamestop on sunday rummaging through the used stuff, two guys bought Halo Wars in 15 minutes. Both looked in their late 20s, both ignored that it wasn't a FPS by what they were telling thier gf/friends about the game, none of them had reserved the copy nor seemed particularly knowledgeable about gaming.

That "less than 1%" is waaay too optimistic: most gamers are not informed nor educated and brands and marketing play a much greter role than that. Otherwise the investment into marketing would not be justified.



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Kantor on 03 March 2009
NinjaKido said:
I am actualy shocked that the thread was locked , I did have a legitimate question and simply because 1. I have a Killzone 2 Avatar/Sig . 2. The question could be considered anti-MS , Anti- Halo the thread was locked . It's seriously no shock that twestern locked it .

False advertising is an issue that affects all companies not just MS , so how my thread could be interprited as trolling is beyond me . Criticising MS's business practice to some how assault the XBOX 360 seems a bit far fetched to me , if I wanted to troll on Halo Wars i'd do something like post it's review scores.

People are becoming increasingly sensitive to legitimate questions if they have the potential for flamebait , I can't help how you interprit my questions but the mature poster would see I had no intentions beyond actualy seeing what people felt about it.

I already knew from a legal perspective MS had little to no legal liability in regards to their advertising so I decided to ask the question from a morale perspective.

The ironic thing is that Twestern post's far more controversial thread topics but is alowed to get away with it " I hate PSN Store " , " I hate Home " etc etc.

That's because Twesterm hates everything

Ah wait, it was a double thread? Lol.



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NinjaKido on 03 March 2009
Kantor said:
NinjaKido said:
I am actualy shocked that the thread was locked , I did have a legitimate question and simply because 1. I have a Killzone 2 Avatar/Sig . 2. The question could be considered anti-MS , Anti- Halo the thread was locked . It's seriously no shock that twestern locked it .

False advertising is an issue that affects all companies not just MS , so how my thread could be interprited as trolling is beyond me . Criticising MS's business practice to some how assault the XBOX 360 seems a bit far fetched to me , if I wanted to troll on Halo Wars i'd do something like post it's review scores.

People are becoming increasingly sensitive to legitimate questions if they have the potential for flamebait , I can't help how you interprit my questions but the mature poster would see I had no intentions beyond actualy seeing what people felt about it.

I already knew from a legal perspective MS had little to no legal liability in regards to their advertising so I decided to ask the question from a morale perspective.

The ironic thing is that Twestern post's far more controversial thread topics but is alowed to get away with it " I hate PSN Store " , " I hate Home " etc etc.

That's because Twesterm hates everything

Ah wait, it was a double thread? Lol.


no that was in response to twest no the locking.

blunty51 on 03 March 2009

politics: it's fucking everywhere



Words Of Wisdom on 03 March 2009
NinjaKido said:

It might be a shock to you but not everyone post's with malicous intentions in mind , it was a genuine discussion point that arised when I was talking with my friends in college. The very fact that you frequently inteprit things is anti-ms / anti xbox 360 shows the kind of poster you are , combine that with you "i hate psn" ," I hate home" threads and what do you have ?

Funnily enough I remember being banned once because I implied you were an XBOX 360 fanboy , I nor anyone else realised it was against the forum rules until then.

Making MS look like shit isn't worthwhile,  it's a company  , an inanimate legal entity , bought and sold on the stock market believe or not but that has no interest to me I use alot of MS products. I brought the topic up because the Halo name is the biggest fps brand , deception of MS's part was terribly easily but moraly wrong and I thought it should be adressed .

And of course an internet forum is the proper venue in which to address it...

It is a shame that the thread got locked though.  It some ways it's a testament to the immaturity of normal posters and moderators alike that it turned out that way.