Didn't MS also said Vista would be a big leap from XP too?

I agree, when I put my TV on brightest my games don't have better lighting.

huh ?? ooo...oops u get the point though :D

Well i think there will be better looking games in the future so it would be strange if Killzone 2 was best looking game even after the end of this gen.

Microsoft could have easily said:

"Sony's Killzone 2 is an impressive graphical title, but our Gears of War 2 still sets the bar for graphical acheivement."

This would have been respectable because Gears of War 2 is still a graphically impressive looking game, and it appease the 360 fanboys. But Microsoft didn't take this route maybe because it's undeniable to them as well so the 360 fanboys here are scraping for excuses (the real trolls in this thread). Fact of the matter, Killzone 2 looks impressive no matter how you deny it.

This doesn't sound like a M$ comment. Smells funny.

They need to show us, if this is for real.

Heck, I made a game the other day, on my iPhone, that totally kicks the graphical behinds of KZ2 and Gears 2! Nope, nope... don't ask me to see it. You'll all have to wait in line to see my greatness, like everybody else.

So "true gamer" equates to required local multi-player???  I do hope for your sake and the image of TRUE gamers that your blinded self-righteousnes doesn't give us TRUE gamers a bad name.

In their defense; it was.

Just not a very good one...

To tell the truth the PS3 doesn't event try to "handle directX10", simply because it doesn't use that API. And yes, 360's GPU is more advanced, but KZ2 demonstrated offloading work on the SPUs can lead to great results (example: the object-based motion blur it uses is specced in dx10, but I think the only other game implementing it is Crysis under Vista)

Basically, we'll just have to wait and see.

Btw, talking about "easy to develop" and extreme performance in the same context? It's usually a tradeoff, because if you stick to a standard API you squeeze less from your hardware than if you go close to the "metal".

Case in question: I seem to remember that the 360's GPU does not implement the DX11 tessellation specs fully, so that some calls will have to rely on a fallback implemented otherwise. Thus when you port a piece of code that uses DX11's tessellation to the 360 you can potentially incur into performance hiccups, that you'd need to fix it at a lower level I suppose.

On the other side, but maybe Squilliam knows this better, I think that similar tessellation techniques on the PS3 are implemented using the SPUs.

You're the one calling fanboy.

Thread premise: Microsoft says...

People respond: Yes

Do we have to add Killzone denial to our dictionary? And still even then I don't see the denial. Hell, I don't see the fanboyishness either.