this. Dude, if you need a religious guru to help you accept that sony has no chance of beating nintendo this gen you are an ultra fanboy.

 By win do you mean come out as the top selling console (for PS3) or handheld (for PSP)?  In which case what I think is there is absolutely no way the PSP can win (gap to DS is just totally insurmountable) and there is only one way PS3 can win - blow up every Nintendo factory and office and drop the price to $150.  That should see it gather enough sales to overtake the 360 (which would still be selling but would see much less sales than 360 on a weekly basis) and Wii (which would have stopped selling due to the console ceasing to be manufactured).

I believe Sony doesn't have a shot at winning this generation, but it wouldn't hurt if they:

Release GT5

Price dropped PS3 so that they lose money on each console but gain money on software sales through that increased install base

JRPGS! They really dropped the ball this generation and let MS in Japan, now it's too late for them seeing as how Nintendo is also pummelling them in Japan.

Start releasing more Buzz, Eyetoy and Singstar games. They came out too late this generation (I don't think I've seen an Eyetoy game yet for the PS3, unless you count that card game).

The time for experimentation is over. Lair Sucked. Heavenly Sword sucked (to a lesser extent). Folklore was meh. Motorstorm 2 came out way too early (does anyone really buy that many car racing games not labelled Forza, Gran Turismo or Need for speed?). They did well with Resistance, Uncharted and Warhawk. Now it's time for sequels. Where's Jak and Sly Cooper?

Stop releasing so many damn SKU's. MS did it to fix RROD, Why the hell is Sony doing it? Instead of making incremental improvements that a 60gb launcher owner and 80gb owner couldn't tell the difference between and get to work on a PS3 slim.

While I don't think that the PS3 would be the last Playstation console, you have to consider that Nintendo was still an amazingly profitable company and had amazingly popular handheld systems throughout their declines with the SNES, N64 and Gamecube generations; and it also took 3 generations for Nintendo to fall from their ultra-dominant position to the third place console at (roughly) 1/3 of their peak hardware sales, and Sony will have accomplished this in one generation.

In other words, Sony is not in the same position as Nintendo was and poor decisions leading into the next generation could easily kill off Sony's gaming division.

Sony win!? Win what!?

Except the Gamecube made a profit, as did those other consoles, and the Playstation 3 has wiped out all the PS2 profits then some.

BIG difference.

Where the hell did you hear that Sony wiped out their PS2 profits? Do you even know how much they Made from PS2 software alone? Add in accessories and the actual 120M hardware Sales and I think it Would be close to impossible for them to wipe out all of that.

Now In response to the OP I think if they did all that within 2 years they could take the lead from the 360 but the Wii is untouchable unless Nintendo releases a game where you can play as a Pedophile call it : Michael Jackson's Jesus Juice

I can't be arsed to go fetch you the data, but I know what I'm saying is true. Search this site for it or find someone who might kindly show you ALL the profits Sony have made from when they first entered the market with the playstation.

It will tell you that all the money made in the PS2 era has been wiped out by the billions the PS3 has cost. and like I said .. and then some.

QFT, good points there

If you cant be "arsed" to go looking for the source or information on a post you claim then Im just going to say you were talking outta your ass.