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dbot said:
@rubido - Let's try this another way. What would happen if I created a thread that said Mario Kart Wii sucked. The controls are laggy, Wii Wheel was a gimmick, the graphics were last gen quality, the online is laggy, and the levels were repetitive and boring? Now the only difference between my theoretical thread and the op's Killzone thread is I gave valid reasons why I disliked it.

(Note: These are not my true feelings about MK. I really do like it.)

I don't know what would happen. I certainly wouldn't be attacking you personally for that post.

To make your point a bit better, I guess you should bash some other game than Mario Kart. Mario Galaxy maybe? Wasn't there a recent post about some guy that hated that game and couldn't spin attack properly? Yeah... I read that one. I did think that was quite weird as I could pull it off so easily. I don't think I posted anything about it though. Just thought his comment was weird.

I kind of think that the direction you actually want to go with your post is: would a similar reaction happen? Maybe. If it did, would it be from lousy fanboys? Probably. Would they be any better than kz2 fanboys? No.

dbot, i can see you like killzone2. That's fine man. But don't act as if you're in a pack of wolves and don't defend the fanboys. When I attack fanboys (and I will again and again because some really make me sick for ruining this forum), you don't have to associate with them. This is not aimed at all kz2 fans, just the immature ones that ruinned this thread. You can love kz2 and they can love kz2 and you can still be such a better person than they are.



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rubido said:
dbot said:
@rubido - Let's try this another way. What would happen if I created a thread that said Mario Kart Wii sucked. The controls are laggy, Wii Wheel was a gimmick, the graphics were last gen quality, the online is laggy, and the levels were repetitive and boring? Now the only difference between my theoretical thread and the op's Killzone thread is I gave valid reasons why I disliked it.

(Note: These are not my true feelings about MK. I really do like it.)

I don't know what would happen. I certainly wouldn't be attacking you personally for that post.

To make your point a bit better, I guess you should bash some other game than Mario Kart. Mario Galaxy maybe? Wasn't there a recent post about some guy that hated that game and couldn't spin attack properly? Yeah... I read that one. I did think that was quite weird as I could put it off so easily. I don't think I posted anything about it though. Just thought his comment was weird.

I kind of think that the direction you actually want to go with your post is: would a similar reaction happen? Maybe. If it did, would it be from lousy fanboys? Probably. Would they be any better than kz2 fanboys? No.

dbot, i can see you like killzone2. That's fine man. But don't act as if you're in a pack of wolves and don't defend the fanboys. When I attack fanboys (and I will again and again because some really make me sick for ruining this forum), you don't have to associate with them. This is not aimed at all kz2 fans, just the immature ones that ruinned this thread. You can love kz2 and they can love kz2 and you can still be such a better person than they are.

I don't know if I like Killzone or not.  I liked the demo and will be buying the game tomorrow.  My point is it is ok to say you dislike a game.  The problem with this thread is the op didn't really present a very good case.  Many of his issues didn't really make sense.  All next gen fps's move with L3 and control the camera with R3, etc.  If he said the gameplay was generic, the story sucked, or the acting was horrible.  Those would be valid concerns, but to say the game sucked because he couldn't figure out how to switch the contoller layout.  That's really not going to go unnoticed.

My point to you is don't call everyone fanboys because they point out obvious things to the op.  He can dislike the game, but people that have played the game are entitled to state their opinions as well.  It seems to me that you didn't read the whole thread and just assumed the op was getting trolled for no good reason, and that is obviously not the case :).

 



Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

Dammit, amazon only dispatched today, so I'll have to wait till tomorrow to play



dbot said:

I don't know if I like Killzone or not.  I liked the demo and will be buying the game tomorrow.  My point is it is ok to say you dislike a game.  The problem with this thread is the op didn't really present a very good case.  Many of his issues didn't really make sense.  All next gen fps's move with L3 and control the camera with R3, etc.  If he said the gameplay was generic, the story sucked, or the acting was horrible.  Those would be valid concerns, but to say the game sucked because he couldn't figure out how to switch the contoller layout.  That's really not going to go unnoticed.

My point to you is don't call everyone fanboys because they point out obvious things to the op.  He can dislike the game, but people that have played the game are entitled to state their opinions as well.  It seems to me that you didn't read the whole thread and just assumed the op was getting trolled for no good reason, and that is obviously not the case :).

 

I didn't call everyone a fanboy and I did read this whole thread. I said some people on this thread are huge fanboys (and they are) and I prefer not to call out names. Did you read this thread? Do you really think some people here were not just attacking him directly? Do you think the responses in this thread were all reasonable?

I know you're just pushing it because you want to talk about the game and I said I didn't want to go into those details. I wanted to separate the conversation because none of my comments were about the game and they were actually about people's reaction. But I'll actually point out something about the game that came up in this discussion that I thought was really fanboyish for people to complain.

I found his comments on the cover system to be very reasonable. It's in the single player campaign and he complains it is not in the online part of the game. Then people come and say it's useless so it shouldn't be there. Wouldn't the logical argument be that if you think it's useless then you should not use it? But if other people want to use it, why should that bother you? It's useless anyway, right? It's not like he is complaining for something he thinks they should have taken extra time to add to the game. It's something they took extra time to remove from the online part of the game.

I'll tell you that most responses to the cover system complaint he did were quite fanboyish.

 



I want mine right now!



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@Rubido - I think it is fine to say you love the game, hate the game, agree with the op, or disagree with the op as long as you provide details and do it in a mature manner. I think we agree on this point and disagree with the extent fanboyism occurred in this thread. Fair enough.



Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

lol i got mine a day early lol shopto.net ftw!



headshot91 said:
lol i got mine a day early lol shopto.net ftw!

 

Yup, same here. I got the Limited Edition for only £33! Shopto.net > Amazon.



  

ok... sorry about my last post i never try to be a rude poster,sorry if i offended anyone.

to the people saying i didnt try to change the controls.

before i had a ps3 i had a xbox (gamertag I ECC I) when i used to play cod2,cod4,cod3,orange box or any other fps this is how the buttons were mapped.

zoom/LOOK DOWN SIGHTS L2 FIRE/SHOOT R2

so when i got my ps3 in november i went out and bought cod4,and last week i got the orange box (portal ftw). i was always used to shooting with the triggers/bumpers even on the cube. so when i first played cod4 on ps the zoom and fire were mapped to l1 and r1. i hated this so i went to the options and switched the zoom and fire to L2 and R2. this was a dream come true!

now in killzone after playing and messing with the options the closes thing to the way i like it is alternate 1 or 2 (cant remember at the moment) well its l1 to zoom and r2 to fire. now from reading what i wrote above you know i hated this in cod4. im sill trying to get used to it (and i am) but my main roblem more than anything is how r3 moves the camera! its just so clunky?!?

im not going to sell or try to give the game back. i will continue to play it to experience the other classes before fully judging the game.i hear they really make a difference.

i hope that cleared something up?

oh and thanks to anyone who didnt just bash me and actually tried to have a open discussion with me.



 

   

yeah, you apparently don't like games that control differently. Gears doesn't have a duck button in the same place CoD does, either, and yet people adjust to that control scheme. Not every game has to have the same button layout. I don't know what to tell you about the R3 moving the camera...some people don't like it. I think it's better than other games, but that's me.

But hey, at least you're going to give it more time. You may not like it in the end, either, but I respect that you're not just going to bash it after a few hours and move on.