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The_vagabond7 said:
halogamer1989 said:
I agree with them. This has nothing to do with sexual preference but appr. gamertag and profile material. "Be mature people" is just want MSFT wants.

 

clearly they aren't too concerned with appropriateness. You can go into any game and call somebody a gay ass nigger without repercussion, but identify yourself as a minority that is offensive to conservative christians? GTFO!

 

 I second that... some of the people on Live are abnoxious and through racial, sexual, and just down right diguisting terms that apparantly apparanty never happend because there not in there profile.... this is riddiculous!



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phisheep said:
nightsurge said:

 

I am an American who has every right to see offense in the term.  Who are you to deny me this right?   

Well, yes, but ...

... first, being American doesn't really have anything to do with it ...

And of course you have a right to see offense in anything. It isn't so much a right as a response, kindled by your upbringing, but I'll grant you that part.

Where your 'right' ends though, American or not, is where it interferes with other people's rights. Especially the rights to roam the earth and perhaps even Xbox Live without fear.

Hey, for all you know the lady in question may be American too. Means she has rights, don't it?

 

I'm not really offended by it.  Sure if the stereotypical gay guy comes up and hardcore sexual harrases me, I'll be offended, but for the normal guy or gal that is gay, I have no problem with it.  I do not hate on them, I was just using an example.

No one was discriminating her.  They were not saying she had to be afraid of harrasment or discrimination.  She simply violated the terms of service.  It's sad that people with actual names like Gaywood have to have their gamertag changed, but the simple fact remains that it is just against their ToU.  The words gay, lesbian, bi-sexual, straight, etc. all have sexual connotations.

@ant
So every word that can be found in the dictionary should be allowed in every aspect of communication?  Profane/vulgar words should be allowed?  Hmmm... seems like quite a few, religious or not, are offended by vulgar words.  The word "nigger" is in the dictionary, so that must mean it is ok to call anyone that, correct?  It must be perfectly acceptable to use in any context.

It does not matter where the text is located.  If it has sexual connotations, it's ban worthy, regardless of the meaning behind it.  No one can look at those words and not make a sexual connection...

And I quote again:

You agree that we may also discontinue your access to the Service if you do any of the following while connected to the Service:

Create a Gamertag , avatar or use text in other profile fields that may offend other members. This includes comments that look, sound like, stand for, hint at, abbreviate, or insinuate or relate to any of the following: profane words/phrases, topics or content of a sexual nature, hate speech (including but not limited to racial, ethnic, or religious slurs), illegal drugs/controlled substances, or illegal activities;



antfromtashkent said:
The_vagabond7 said:
halogamer1989 said:
I agree with them. This has nothing to do with sexual preference but appr. gamertag and profile material. "Be mature people" is just want MSFT wants.

 

clearly they aren't too concerned with appropriateness. You can go into any game and call somebody a gay ass nigger without repercussion, but identify yourself as a minority that is offensive to conservative christians? GTFO!

 

 I second that... some of the people on Live are abnoxious and through racial, sexual, and just down right diguisting terms that apparantly apparanty never happend because there not in there profile.... this is riddiculous!

Microsoft cannot monitor all the communcation.  They give the feedback and reporting system for a reason.  If I ever hear racial or vulgar language, I do the right thing and report it because I consider myself a moral person and am offended by such things.  I do not make irrational connections to discrimination and sexual orientations, though.  If someone says they are gay, I could care less... I'm not gonna report that because people are gay.. woop-die-doo.  That doesn't change the fact that others are offended, and by the ToU it should not be allowed just as racial comments are not allowed.



People really need to stop being offended by homosexuality. It really makes me cringe. I don't see why it matters to anyone who you fall in love with.



My daughter is my world.


nightsurge said:
phisheep said:
nightsurge said:

 

I am an American who has every right to see offense in the term.  Who are you to deny me this right?   

Well, yes, but ...

... first, being American doesn't really have anything to do with it ...

And of course you have a right to see offense in anything. It isn't so much a right as a response, kindled by your upbringing, but I'll grant you that part.

Where your 'right' ends though, American or not, is where it interferes with other people's rights. Especially the rights to roam the earth and perhaps even Xbox Live without fear.

Hey, for all you know the lady in question may be American too. Means she has rights, don't it?

 

I'm not really offended by it.  Sure if the stereotypical gay guy comes up and hardcore sexual harrases me, I'll be offended, but for the normal guy or gal that is gay, I have no problem with it.  I do not hate on them, I was just using an example.

No one was discriminating her.  They were not saying she had to be afraid of harrasment or discrimination.  She simply violated the terms of service.  It's sad that people with actual names like Gaywood have to have their gamertag changed, but the simple fact remains that it is just against their ToU.  The words gay, lesbian, bi-sexual, straight, etc. all have sexual connotations.

@ant
So every word that can be found in the dictionary should be allowed in every aspect of communication?  Profane/vulgar words should be allowed?  Hmmm... seems like quite a few, religious or not, are offended by vulgar words.  The word "nigger" is in the dictionary, so that must mean it is ok to call anyone that, correct?  It must be perfectly acceptable to use in any context.

It does not matter where the text is located.  If it has sexual connotations, it's ban worthy, regardless of the meaning behind it.  No one can look at those words and not make a sexual connection...

And I quote again:

You agree that we may also discontinue your access to the Service if you do any of the following while connected to the Service:

Create a Gamertag , avatar or use text in other profile fields that may offend other members. This includes comments that look, sound like, stand for, hint at, abbreviate, or insinuate or relate to any of the following: profane words/phrases, topics or content of a sexual nature, hate speech (including but not limited to racial, ethnic, or religious slurs), illegal drugs/controlled substances, or illegal activities;

Ok first of all the word "nigger" is used on Live REGURARLY and no one gets in trouble for it....as long as its not in your profile it dint happend.

Second of all the word "nigger" has been used as a negative term for hundreds of years.... while lesbian was never used as a negative term unless the person has something against lesbians... or apparantly you....

third of all i can walk into a full room of people and yell "lesbians" and people will just think im crazy... if i yell "nigger" on the other hand i would be called a racist and probably get my ass kicked

 



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I'm offended by people stating that they're black in their profile. I mean, I don't have anything against people being black in their own homes, but why should they mention that in their profile on a GAMING SERVICE? This is for playing games, not for pathetic attention-seeking black power recruitment drives. What is this, a blacks-only dating service? Why should they want me to know? All they're doing is advertising to racists. I mean, if I were a racist, I could just find out who's black and then insult them, or try to get them banned for pulling the race card.



BY THE WAY the word "SEXUAL" is of a sexual nature so MS should ban all the contract wrighting lawyers..



antfromtashkent said:
nightsurge said:
phisheep said:
nightsurge said:

 

I am an American who has every right to see offense in the term.  Who are you to deny me this right?   

Well, yes, but ...

... first, being American doesn't really have anything to do with it ...

And of course you have a right to see offense in anything. It isn't so much a right as a response, kindled by your upbringing, but I'll grant you that part.

Where your 'right' ends though, American or not, is where it interferes with other people's rights. Especially the rights to roam the earth and perhaps even Xbox Live without fear.

Hey, for all you know the lady in question may be American too. Means she has rights, don't it?

 

I'm not really offended by it.  Sure if the stereotypical gay guy comes up and hardcore sexual harrases me, I'll be offended, but for the normal guy or gal that is gay, I have no problem with it.  I do not hate on them, I was just using an example.

No one was discriminating her.  They were not saying she had to be afraid of harrasment or discrimination.  She simply violated the terms of service.  It's sad that people with actual names like Gaywood have to have their gamertag changed, but the simple fact remains that it is just against their ToU.  The words gay, lesbian, bi-sexual, straight, etc. all have sexual connotations.

@ant
So every word that can be found in the dictionary should be allowed in every aspect of communication?  Profane/vulgar words should be allowed?  Hmmm... seems like quite a few, religious or not, are offended by vulgar words.  The word "nigger" is in the dictionary, so that must mean it is ok to call anyone that, correct?  It must be perfectly acceptable to use in any context.

It does not matter where the text is located.  If it has sexual connotations, it's ban worthy, regardless of the meaning behind it.  No one can look at those words and not make a sexual connection...

And I quote again:

You agree that we may also discontinue your access to the Service if you do any of the following while connected to the Service:

Create a Gamertag , avatar or use text in other profile fields that may offend other members. This includes comments that look, sound like, stand for, hint at, abbreviate, or insinuate or relate to any of the following: profane words/phrases, topics or content of a sexual nature, hate speech (including but not limited to racial, ethnic, or religious slurs), illegal drugs/controlled substances, or illegal activities;

Ok first of all the word "nigger" is used on Live REGURARLY and no one gets in trouble for it....as long as its not in your profile it dint happend.

Second of all the word "nigger" has been used as a negative term for hundreds of years.... while lesbian was never used as a negative term unless the person has something against lesbians... or apparantly you....

third of all i can walk into a full room of people and yell "lesbians" and people will just think im crazy... if i yell "nigger" on the other hand i would be called a racist and probably get my ass kicked

 

Pay attention.  It includes voice communication.  Use the freaking reporting system and feedback system and they will be held accountable!  Gosh...

I already said it does not offend me.  I'm merely trying to show you the hypocrisy and idiocy of your ways.

Depends on the room you walk into.

Also, everyone that is saying "people who are offended by gays/lesbians should just stop".  You have no right to tell other people what they can or cannot be offended by, or what they have to accept.  Everyone is different.  But, since this is not even the issue, we should probably stop talking about it.

I'll make this nice and big so EVERYONE understands:

This woman was not banned for being a lesbian!!!!  This is not about discrimination!! She was banned for having text in the profile which relates to, hints at, is a topic of, or stands for something of sexual nature.

I think we can all agree that lesbian, gay, bisexual, etc all relate to, hint at, or is a TOPIC of sexual nature.



antfromtashkent said:

BY THE WAY the word "SEXUAL" is of a sexual nature so MS should ban all the contract wrighting lawyers..

Sure if the lawyers come on to Xbox Live and violate the ToU by using the word.  I guess you would be right

 



So what happened to the gamers that harassed her? Are they now being hailed as heroic bounty hunters?