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Forums - Sales - Famitsu: Star Ocean 4: 166,027, X360: 24,584

I don't want to keep going with this so we will need to agree to disagree. I love this series and I don't want to look like I am hating on it or anything.

I do however hope you are right and the US welcomes this game with open arms. We should find out in a couple of days seeing as how this game releases today. I know that I am going to do my part and pick it up.



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didnt disgea sell better than tov or something



Euphoria14 said:
Egghead said:
Euphoria14 said:
@Egghead

Let me ask you 1 question though.

If you were a developer, what would mean more to you.

A.) MS funding but much lower install base.
B.) No MS funding but mutliplatform release resulting in MUCH higher install base.

Option 2 in my opinion sounds much healthier for the future of the series.

It is not whining, it is just an opinion that differs from yours.

Did you just ignore half my post.


Its the same here, so let me boil down for you

1. 360

 - MS marketing

 - Garuntee of solid sales in Japan (not blockbuster but SOLID)

 - Cheap developement

 - MS funding for engine, greater pay off in long-run

 - Easier and quicker developement

 - Not waiting around for developement kits

 - AND MOST IMPORTANTLY - Stronger sales in NA, the most important market in the world especially for hardcore games

2. PS3

 - You sell 100-150k copies more in Japan...

You decide

 

What makes you think a PS3 version would only do 100k-150k? A new IP called White Knight Chronicles has gone over 300k already.

Now yes S-E got a nice pay-off from MS, but how does that help them with sales of the next game?

It's easy. It doesn't.

Also being on 360 in no way insures better US sales. Let us come back to that argument when PS3 gets a JRPG out the door in the US. So far it has a good SRPG called Disgaea and already that game hurts your argument.

 

 

What about VC and Disgaea 3, or how about Eternal Sonata. WKC was released at the peak of the holiday, and it recieved HUGE marketing from Sony, given their lack of JRPGs, they had no choice but to go all out, this was their Gears of War 2 for Japan to capitalise on the holiday period. The IP excuse just doesnt hold, this game has blown away ToV sales, which is a comparable or even bigger franchise

Regardless, a business is here to make money, but to make money it needs sales. Lets not lose focus here, ive just explained how the 360 was a cheaper and easier choice, hence they will make MORE money off every copy sold than they wouldve have on the PS34. How can you ignore that

In fact youre quick to say that the game wouldve sold much better in Japan on PS3, yet you cast doubt on it in NA? Double standards?

Regardless, you have a point, but im just saying that its a lot more complicated than saying the PS3 has a bigger userbase in Japan

 



Max King of the Wild said:
didnt disgea sell better than tov or something

Disgea 3 did 110k, ToV did 170k. In fact it didnt even beat IU, which did 130k.



I don´t see the point in quarreling, since Tri-Ace´s engine wasn´t PS3 compatible when SO4 was in development. So even if SE wanted to release it both on PS3 and X360 the same day, it´s impossible.



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Egghead said:

What about VC and Disgaea 3, or how about Eternal Sonata. WKC was released at the peak of the holiday, and it recieved HUGE marketing from Sony, given their lack of JRPGs, they had no choice but to go all out, this was their Gears of War 2 for Japan to capitalise on the holiday period. The IP excuse just doesnt hold, this game has blown away ToV sales, which is a comparable or even bigger franchise

Regardless, a business is here to make money, but to make money it needs sales. Lets not lose focus here, ive just explained how the 360 was a cheaper and easier choice, hence they will make MORE money off every copy sold than they wouldve have on the PS34. How can you ignore that

In fact youre quick to say that the game wouldve sold much better in Japan on PS3, yet you cast doubt on it in NA? Double standards?

Regardless, you have a point, but im just saying that its a lot more complicated than saying the PS3 has a bigger userbase in Japan

 

You know Disgaea 3 hurts your argument right?

It is an SRPG, fact is they sell less.

In the US it is only 20k behind Vesperia, about half of The Last Remnant, about 3x less than Blue Dragon. Yes Lost Odyssey has sold over 500k there but it was also advertised, as was The Last Remnant and Infinite Undiscovery.

Guess how much that niche SRPG recieved? None that I know of, yet it is on par with the JRPG releases on the 360 in the US.

Now if an SRPG can sell that well in the US on a smaller userbase no less, just think of what a high profile JRPG can do.

 

Eternal Sonata is also a very very weak argument bro. It released over a year later.

Valkyria Chronicles is also an SRPG, which do not sell as well as JRPG. It has sold 350k. That is only 100k behind IU, 200k behind TLR and past Vesperia. Scratch that, Vesperia has not had its EU release yet. Although same goes for Disgaea 3, which will be published by S-E, that should increase sales for it.

Remember once again, it is a very niche genre which sells less than JRPGs.

 

You really just hurt your argument really bad just now.

 

Not sure how long you have been here, but it is well known that you can not directly compare SRPG to JRPG. It is as weak of a Japan RPG comparison as you can get.

 



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Also remember, these games do not have the Square-Enix brand on them either and that alone insures good sales.



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360 managed to sell 30k on IU's launch week because it was launched alongside with a price-cut. And a few weeks before that 360 has been selling like 1-2k consoles.



Rei said:
360 managed to sell 30k on IU's launch week because it was launched alongside with a price-cut. And a few weeks before that 360 has been selling like 1-2k consoles.

 

Not sure how to take this comment, but are you saying this as a good thing for SO4 or a bad thing?



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CGI-Quality said:
Go 360!! It's good to see this. I'm glad the game is doing so well and now maybe the 360 will see 10,000-15,000 consoles sold as a standard throughout 2009!

Congrats 360, you've earned it!

 

It is a good possibility if they keep it up with the JRPG releases. We will find out soon enough.



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