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PS3 with "quite the lead"? On which planet?

Oh, you mean specifications? That explains why most games never use the six additional cores then.

Right question would have been: in what reality. And answer would be: in the PS fanboy reality. Reason why games don't use 6 SPE:s (i think you meant SPE when you said core), is that the 6th SPE (for games) is mainly for the system. If the game uses all six SPE:s and system needs that SPE, it just takes it and game can't use it. So, if you want to make a game that doesn't crash, you can use only 5 SPE:s. Thats why games don't use all six.

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bdbdbd, sorry I also does not agree with kbg29, but do you have to call his posting bull shit? And is it necessary to call him a fanboy? If you disagree with him and feel the need to tell anyone, then reply to him, take the points you disagree and make an argument. Everybody can see that he had make an effort to lay down a good argument with a lot of text. You are saying, that it is bullshit and he is basically a fanboy, and all you can come up with are that 3 sentences? And insults?



I hate cellery, how's that for an insult. BOOYAH



Great post KBG29, you layed everything out perfect. The PS3 is no doubt the most powerful console the wii is the weakest. But you must remember that most gamers are not very smart about technology. You can tell them that the PS3 can turn water to wine and they would think that it can. You tell them the DS prints money and i don't think they will know it doesn't.

It will take atleast 2-3 years for the rest of the gaming community to feel that the wii can not match the PS3/360. Then the sales of the wii will steady and the sales of the PS3/360 will grow like crazy. When you can get a $200 xbox, not the core one, and a $300 dollar PS3 the systems will move like crack on welfare check day



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On the 360:

"At the end of the day you still have a straight forward CPU GPU chipset that can be easly learned and taped out very fast by devs. The Devs will greet this with open arms as it gives them the ability to rake in the cash, but it is not the best for gamers."

I don´t get it, how does this let Devs rake in cash ??? This is no where explained, if anything the Wiis lower dev costs would justify such a statement, but since 360 games cost about as much as PS3 games this does not make any sence at all. How could easier programming be good for Devs but bad for gamers ??? These are just claims with no explanation. Any benefit for developers will be handed down to gamers. Better games can be made faster and at less cost, how is this bad for gamers ???

Lots of stuff in the article make sence and are known facts but stuff like this make no sence at all. Eventhough its an interesting read I don´t care fore the style and bias that it offers.



 

 

 

basic commonly held blockbuster cost estimates. Wii: $12-15mil 360 $20mil PS3 $25mil



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I thought we already knew the PS3/360 could do anything the Wii could? The question is: why aren't they doing it? Because they would sell a lot more reaching out to a broader demographic like the Wii does, even if they would still cost $100-350 more than the Wii.

And I hate to ask it, but are there still rational people who think the entire gaming population will once open their eyes and say: screw Nintendo, graphics rule and why did I buy a Wii in the first place? Even if it did happen(and believe me, it won't) it would be far too late.



I think your perception of the power of the systems are quite biased towards ps2 and ps3. It also seems that you don't actually possess any great deal of education or understanding in hardware systems or software engineering to back up your sometimes weird claims.

And of course you will defend yourself with "what do you know", and I will answer that I am on my third year of a Masters in Computer Science and Engineering, and probably have a slightly better understanding than you. You could also have a similair education, but from what you have written, that does not seem to be the case. I do not claim to have full understanding of the subject though as there are many details I probably have overlooked and don't fully understand.



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The Wii is a Gamecube with more RAM and 3 times as powerful chip set as the Cube. Not many specs have been released on the system, but their is really nothing to say about it anyway. Nintendo believs that people don't care about graphics, and that they would rather have a cheap console. Works for me, and I know their is know one arguing that this thing can touch the PS3/360. I will only point out one thing. Shane Bentonhouseing said one the 1up Show that if you think that it is good that the Wii has bed graphics, because that means it will have good gameplay, you are delusional.


I'm surprised no one has responded to this yet.



PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)

If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.

Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007