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the PS2 will have the same slow death that the PS1 had, the PS1 had a year of nothing other than EA sports games and dregs of DDR games, the PS2 is having the same, only this time its Guitar hero, singstar and Buzz games. Once those franchises either die or move onto the PS3 exclusivly, the PS2 will be officially dead but for the time being its ideal as a casual gift for xmas and for a party.

The PS2's death could be shorter than the PS1's since the Wii is filling that market already, the wii is cheap enough to make the PS2 seem a waste of money. I think sony will release a slashed price PS2 for xmas, or some very attractive party bundles with buzzers, mics and so on. After this holiday tho, its over for the old chap :) 



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Soriku said:
@lep-j What are those "huge RPGs as we speak"? Persona 3? That's ONE. PS2 WILL die eventually. Next year or 09.

 

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and more just cant find them. Persona 3 is another one. Most of those games have a 4.5-5/5 with custumer reviews in gamestop.



 

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I don't think the PS2 is anyone's "worst enemy" anymore. There are very few games coming out, and it's mainly selling to the Singstar/Guitar Hero audience. You know, the guys who are destroying gaming. =P



The PS2 is really having no effect on the Wii's staying power, I don't really see what the problem is.



PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)

If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.

Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007

The PS2 is everyone's enemy but shows how many people are still to jump to next gen, which is excellent for Sony at the moment.

You can rest assure though that Wii sport games from EA next year are going to be PS2 ports. I mean, EA made Xbox and Gamecube versions of Madden 08, so PS2 is assured to get all EA sport games next year which is not good for the Wii because they get a sucky version.



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Yes, the PS2 is helping Sony out a lot. The PS2 doesn't require that much investments at this point, but at the same time, brings in a steady amount of money and quite a bit of it. I really thought that the PS2 wouldn't hang around till now, but surprisingly, it has still been popular so it looks like the PS2 will still be a big deal in 2008 and beyond.

Without the PS2, the PS3 would never have gotten off the ground, and would have kept the PS3 from its future success that I predict that it will have once its AAA titles and Home/DVD/VOP/BD all come online and/or become more popular for consumers.



Ps2's best friend is the Ps3's price.  It's for sony fan boys that can't afford the new generation.  I don't see this affecting sales whatsoever.  Wii will be sold out once again this Christmas.  The 360 should build on last Christmas and solidify the American market for the time being.  The PS2 will start its death.  And the PS3 will become the gamecube of this gen.



I don't think that they will ensure domination by any means, but at the same time, they are better than the fluff that the PS3 has been making during the first 6 months of it existence. What I am trying to look for instead of big extreme things like "domination" and "supremacy" and all that is a trend. Are things doing better or worse in XX and YY areas? And why?

And, objectively speaking, judging by the amount of press that these titles have been given, whether or not they will judge to be 9 or 10 rated games, they will do better than the early PS3 games. So I see a positive trend for the PS3.



If the Wii's biggest problem is that it's getting port versions of PS2 games, wouldn't the ever expanding Wii userbase eventually lead to those same types of games being focused on the Wii first?



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Soriku said:
^ Yeah, OK, like you said that Lair, WH, and HS would ensure dominatiob but they're mediocre.

Soriku stop talking $hit, WH isnt mediocore, its an online game. WHich is getting bad reviews because its only online. Heavenly sword is NOT a mediocore game. Lair might be I dont know yet.



 

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