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BrainBoxLtd on 20 February 2009
Khuutra said:
Dante G said:
Very interesting. I'd say they do matter, cause informed buyers check reviews before investing in their games. The thing is, sometimes the user's average is a better information source, cause it tells you whether regular people who actually played the game had fun with it or not.

Not on Metacritic it doesn't.

@Kantor: How about Wii Music? Or Wii Play? How does Mario Kart Wii stack up to previous installments? And so on.

And just to make it clear this isn't a Nintendo specfic thing, Need for Speed: Pro Street (73) crubs stomps Burnout Paradise (87) in sales. Army of Two (72) outsold The Darkness (80), Battlefield Bad Company (85), and The Orange Box (96).

 

 



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famousringo on 20 February 2009
Barozi said:
RolStoppable said:
An important thing to note is that most games that receive an average score of 90 or higher are usually also among the most heavily marketed ones, so I would say that the correlation between review scores and sales is overrated.

I like the comments from developers in this article. Reviewers can be easily manipulated.

I hope the last line from Bilson was just a joke.

So this is the reason why Okami and World of Goo are up there.....

 

I think Rol is saying that they got good sales because they were heavily marketed, not that they got a high metascore because they were heavily marketed.

Although the whole point of marketing is to give the public a favourable view of your product. If it works on everybody else, there's no reason to assume that reviewers would be immune to the perspective-altering properties of advertising.



"The worst part about these reviews is they are [subjective]--and their scores often depend on how drunk you got the media at a Street Fighter event."  — Mona Hamilton, Capcom Senior VP of Marketing
*Image indefinitely borrowed from BrainBoxLtd without his consent.

sethnintendo on 20 February 2009

I tend to want to puke when people try and bring up Metacritic ratings on this site. This is one of the top reason why I will never visit that site. The best way to find out about a game would be to watch video ( or video review) clips and decide for yourself.



Mr Khan on 20 February 2009

So this cruel, arbitrary system that is only referenced by a small percentage of the overall gaming market (even of the market that buys core games, i would think), holds sway over much of the process of determining how much care and attention a game is going to get?

 

The obvious solution is to DoS Metacritic.com until it is no more. Only then shall we be saved from this scourge
(Note: this user does not actually advocate DoS attacks)



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

Barozi on 20 February 2009
famousringo said:
Barozi said:
RolStoppable said:
An important thing to note is that most games that receive an average score of 90 or higher are usually also among the most heavily marketed ones, so I would say that the correlation between review scores and sales is overrated.

I like the comments from developers in this article. Reviewers can be easily manipulated.

I hope the last line from Bilson was just a joke.

So this is the reason why Okami and World of Goo are up there.....

I think Rol is saying that they got good sales because they were heavily marketed, not that they got a high metascore because they were heavily marketed.

Although the whole point of marketing is to give the public a favourable view of your product. If it works on everybody else, there's no reason to assume that reviewers would be immune to the perspective-altering properties of advertising.

Yeah that makes more sense.



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noname2200 on 20 February 2009
Barozi said:
RolStoppable said:
An important thing to note is that most games that receive an average score of 90 or higher are usually also among the most heavily marketed ones, so I would say that the correlation between review scores and sales is overrated.

I like the comments from developers in this article. Reviewers can be easily manipulated.

I hope the last line from Bilson was just a joke.

So this is the reason why Okami and World of Goo are up there.....

Try reading the bolded again. Rol uses his words carefully: it behooves you to read them carefully as well. In this case, what he said, and your interpretation of what he said, are not the same.

Kantor said:
Wii Fit has an 80 on Metacritic last time I checked...that's pretty high...

For one of the most loved, system-moving, biggest buzz titles in recent history? And, not to beat this too much, but what's Wii Sports' metacritic score again?

BrainBoxLtd said:
famousringo said:

 Holy crap, is that ever sig-worthy.

Picture sig would be funnier...

...or it would if I was any good at photoshop. =P

 

When Little King's comes out, I am so changing my sig.



BrainBoxLtd on 20 February 2009
famousringo said:

 Holy crap, is that ever sig-worthy.

Picture sig would be funnier...

...or it would if I was any good at photoshop. =P

 



famousringo on 20 February 2009
BrainBoxLtd said:
famousringo said:

 Holy crap, is that ever sig-worthy.

Picture sig would be funnier...

...or it would if I was any good at photoshop. =P

 

 

I don't blame you. I blame E3 for having such a crappy logo. Good effort.

*Grabs the image and runs.*



"The worst part about these reviews is they are [subjective]--and their scores often depend on how drunk you got the media at a Street Fighter event."  — Mona Hamilton, Capcom Senior VP of Marketing
*Image indefinitely borrowed from BrainBoxLtd without his consent.

the2bears on 20 February 2009
Danny Bilson:

The first person you have to design for is yourself...

I don't know, you might consider the end customer?

 



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BrainBoxLtd on 20 February 2009
famousringo said:
BrainBoxLtd said:
famousringo said:

 Holy crap, is that ever sig-worthy.

Picture sig would be funnier...

...or it would if I was any good at photoshop. =P

 

 

I don't blame you. I blame E3 for having such a crappy logo. Good effort.

I'll work on something better later, provided someone better doesn't do it for me allowing me to be lazy. =P

This is actually the second time I've been to led to believe that drugs are what's missing from my HD gaming experience. The only time I've personally ever felt anything like a lot of the gaming press describe a lot of HD games is when I was high off my ass. Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts and Heavenly Sword were very beautiful when I wasn't sure where the hell I was anymore.

Clearly I need to take up a drug addiction to feed my game addiction. =P