I was confused with TLR, what of it? The interview was in a Dengeki magazine, I am not going to try finding the interview to show two 360 fanboys I am telling the truth. Why would I lie about Versus using a tweaked engine?

Square develops their games on PCs ever since FFVI - according to Nomura.

Originally White Engine was meant to only work with PS3 - that is true. But after SE realised that PS3 isnt going to be the leader this gen they made it multiplatform and changed its name to Crystal Tools.

They invest a lot into this technology. They really want to adopt the western style of development - when a developer builds an engine at the start of the console generation and then uses it till the very end of this generation for every game. The only differense though is that it takes too damn long for SE to do so. But if everything goes as planned then we are going to see a lot more games built on CT in future.

TLR did 80k, SO4 is a well known IP and only did 130k... MS should leave the japanese market, even the stupid FFXIII demo will sell more than SO4...

Why leave if they've gained so much from last gen, and are likely to gain even more?

lol, so now I'm a 360 fanboy! That's sincerely funny my friend.

You know pretty well what I meant with the PC-based engine, despite my wording being wrong. The engine isn't the only thing used for the all important maxing out a console, you know. I'm well aware the PS3 can do some stuff the 360 can't (and the other way around), but that doesn't mean the engine can't run on both machines.

Yep the White Tools engine was made to be immensely powerful to the point that SE wanted near CGI quality gameplay but that is no longer happening. Versus however is using quote what nomura said in the interview "an enhanced version of the engine" where the interviewer pointed out he was referring to the white engine.

I am going by memory now with Nomura saying he wanted to use the full capabilities of the PS3 for Versus and this was before FFXIII was even announced for 360 (I know this because I visited my family in Tokyo March last year) so chances are the FFXIII to 360 decision had already been made internally.

If it jogs anyone's memory and are able to find a scan for the 360 fanboy who thinks I am lying it is the one where he said he was shocked about the scale of Versus when he saw the world map.

Yeah. Capcom had a great strategy and execution this gen: they created their own engine, they don't depend on third parties like UE3 licensees, and have been using that engine to release good games since 2006. If I recall correctly, both Lost Planet and Dead Rising were made using Framework.

SE will have its first Crystal Tools game up for sale 2009 in Japan, 2010 in the West.

By the way, whoever provides architecture compatibility next gen will get a lot of publisher love - Capcom or SE would just need to update their engines, not rewrite new ones from scratch.

@RPG aw c'mon, that was just hype from SE and Nomura. We know what both HD consoles can do.

Sorry about calling you a 360 fanboy that was wrong of me, your just anti-Sony. Sorry once again buddy.

That's something I've been thinking about as well which deserves its own topic. Everything's going good now because MS is funding the games (probably a lot, ToV sold less than Valkyria but Namco is happy while Sega is not). But once MS stops their funding, bad things might happen, sales of series is going down. Maybe the Wii will save the JRPG somewhat with Dragon Quest X, but it currently lacks big JRPG's.

Hear ye, hear ye.

But DQIX ain't even released yet...