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Bokal said:
goddog said:
Bokal said:
I'd say as soon as it become affordable. Why wouldn't you want a bluray drive? It's backward compatible with DVDs and CDs and you can play bluray movies...

Would be stupid not to have one if it's affordable.

Sony (of course) started to put it in it's computers already, so does Dell (for 200€ now...), so will Apple (from what I've heard).

I think it will soon become the standard, or at least widely available.

Not from apple anytime soon

Steve has said its a no go unless blue ray spec settles down (which it has not) and sales boost majorly (which they have not. only new releases are seeing even 2X% sales figures)... also dont forget apple sits on the blueray board and they said this

from a CNN interview

"I asked Jobs whether this meant the format war between Blu-ray and HD-DVD was over, with Apple the big winner. Clearly, he said, Blu-ray won, but in the new world order of instant online movie rentals, in HD, no one will care about what format is where.  Funny how fast tech can move."

http://www.cnbc.com/id/22673034

 

from steve at a keynote

"Blu-ray is just a bag of hurt. It's great to watch the movies, but the licensing of the tech is so complex, we're waiting till things settle down and Blu-ray takes off in the marketplace." Phil chimed in with "We have the best HD movie and TV options in iTunes." Damn. As if that weren't enough to make Mac-lovin' home theater junkies cringe, Steve also commented (when asked about the dearth of HDMI in his introductions) that HDMI was "limited in resolution," and Philip Schiller elaborated by saying that "for typical computer use, DisplayPort is the connector of the future."

http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/14/steve-jobs-calls-blu-ray-a-bag-of-hurt/

 

He said that because Bluray movies compete with iTunes. I could bet it was a move to convince movie studios to sell their movies on iTunes instead of Bluray, and to convince share holders that selling movies on iTunes was a good idea.
The best part being "the licencing of the tech is so complex"... Dell, HP, and other did it... so... must not be SOOOOO complex after all...
I can't even imagine Apple, the company that always come with high quality and bleeding edge hardware, not taking the bluray bandwagon.

 

and yet blue-ray drivers have not made it out in any OS. or OS update, and from what I have seen and read, It is not happening anytime soon. If  blue ray does not show its head during the mac pro refresh this year do not expect it before 10.6 comes and even then its iffy. 

 



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Even DVD isn't standard on some new computers.




Honestly, I think 2009 and 2010 will be the make-or-break years for Blu-Ray: either it'll catch on or it'll become the next Laserdisc. And to be perfectly frank, I think it will be the latter.



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goddog said:

 

and yet blue-ray drivers have not made it out in any OS. or OS update, and from what I have seen and read, It is not happening anytime soon. If  blue ray does not show its head during the mac pro refresh this year do not expect it before 10.6 comes and even then its iffy. 

 

 

I think it will be in Snow Leopard.



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Bokal said:
goddog said:

 

and yet blue-ray drivers have not made it out in any OS. or OS update, and from what I have seen and read, It is not happening anytime soon. If  blue ray does not show its head during the mac pro refresh this year do not expect it before 10.6 comes and even then its iffy. 

 

 

I think it will be in Snow Leopard.

all i can say is in the builds ive used it is not there, granted none are feature full yet and dont see that until developers convention this summer around that time you should see the mac pro refresh too (man i wish it was still called powermac... mac pro just dose not have the same ring too it )

 



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goddog said:
Bokal said:
goddog said:

 

and yet blue-ray drivers have not made it out in any OS. or OS update, and from what I have seen and read, It is not happening anytime soon. If  blue ray does not show its head during the mac pro refresh this year do not expect it before 10.6 comes and even then its iffy. 

 

 

I think it will be in Snow Leopard.

all i can say is in the builds ive used it is not there, granted none are feature full yet and dont see that until developers convention this summer around that time you should see the mac pro refresh too (man i wish it was still called powermac... mac pro just dose not have the same ring too it )

 

 

Apple's totally dropping the ball missing out of BR.





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Bitmap Frogs said:
goddog said:
Bokal said:
goddog said:

 

and yet blue-ray drivers have not made it out in any OS. or OS update, and from what I have seen and read, It is not happening anytime soon. If  blue ray does not show its head during the mac pro refresh this year do not expect it before 10.6 comes and even then its iffy. 

 

 

I think it will be in Snow Leopard.

all i can say is in the builds ive used it is not there, granted none are feature full yet and dont see that until developers convention this summer around that time you should see the mac pro refresh too (man i wish it was still called powermac... mac pro just dose not have the same ring too it )

 

 

Apple's totally dropping the ball missing out of BR.

well i will say that is very odd, and one reason I dont feel blueray is the next disc tech yet. Apple sits on the board and has since the start.  something is holding them back, and Im betting on the finalization of the spec which has not happened yet, which goes back to the complexity of licensing. Id tie this in with slow blueray read times something that needs to be fixed. 

 

 



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goddog said:
Bitmap Frogs said:
goddog said:
Bokal said:
goddog said:

 

and yet blue-ray drivers have not made it out in any OS. or OS update, and from what I have seen and read, It is not happening anytime soon. If  blue ray does not show its head during the mac pro refresh this year do not expect it before 10.6 comes and even then its iffy. 

 

 

I think it will be in Snow Leopard.

all i can say is in the builds ive used it is not there, granted none are feature full yet and dont see that until developers convention this summer around that time you should see the mac pro refresh too (man i wish it was still called powermac... mac pro just dose not have the same ring too it )

 

 

Apple's totally dropping the ball missing out of BR.

well i will say that is very odd, and one reason I dont feel blueray is the next disc tech yet. Apple sits on the board and has since the start.  something is holding them back, and Im betting on the finalization of the spec which has not happened yet, which goes back to the complexity of licensing. Id tie this in with slow blueray read times something that needs to be fixed. 

 

 

Why would dev/beta builds (released) have bluray drivers if there aren't any bluray reader inluded in macs yet? (especially when steve jobs want to sell movies on iTunes)

I really would like to know what's wrong with all that "slow bluray read times"? If someone can explain me, cause I hear that here and there, but can't find any info.



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Bokal said:
goddog said:
Bitmap Frogs said:
goddog said:
Bokal said:
goddog said:

 

and yet blue-ray drivers have not made it out in any OS. or OS update, and from what I have seen and read, It is not happening anytime soon. If  blue ray does not show its head during the mac pro refresh this year do not expect it before 10.6 comes and even then its iffy. 

 

 

I think it will be in Snow Leopard.

all i can say is in the builds ive used it is not there, granted none are feature full yet and dont see that until developers convention this summer around that time you should see the mac pro refresh too (man i wish it was still called powermac... mac pro just dose not have the same ring too it )

 

 

Apple's totally dropping the ball missing out of BR.

well i will say that is very odd, and one reason I dont feel blueray is the next disc tech yet. Apple sits on the board and has since the start.  something is holding them back, and Im betting on the finalization of the spec which has not happened yet, which goes back to the complexity of licensing. Id tie this in with slow blueray read times something that needs to be fixed. 

 

 

Why would dev/beta builds (released) have bluray drivers if there aren't any bluray reader inluded in macs yet? (especially when steve jobs want to sell movies on iTunes)

I really would like to know what's wrong with all that "slow bluray read times"? If someone can explain me, cause I hear that here and there, but can't find any info.

 

the reason it would be in builds is for testing with those of us who have a blueray burner/reader, or need to service environments with it bug test/fix. you just dont role out a product with new fetures without testing it.

 

as for blueray read time. ill post on that after I get back from work. 



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