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Man on 18 February 2009
Ail said:
LoL.

To me this will be remembered as the generation with the most people that bought a console without looking at its game library and then spent half the gen asking for stuff they like to be ported to their console.......( and complaining about every port because it's not like the original...)

 

You're an idiot...seriously.

Maybe the people who bought the wii in the past 6 months to a year shouldnt complain, but i dont think they are.  The people complaining are the ones who bought it in the first year or at launch. 

It launched with Zelda, a classic hardcore nintendo game.   Red Steel, a fps which wasnt great, but showed so much promise for what could be done.   Elebits a unique game that showed promising ideas and that the wii would be getting games with unique gameplay.   Excite truck, which had crazy multiplayer fun.

Based on these, who wouldnt think that developers could make great uniqe fun games if they expanded and improved upon the launch titles.  Thats what normally happens isnt it?  The difference is it didnt happen with the wii.  So to say people didnt look at the library is bullshit.  The launch games had a lot of promise, but developers didnt improve upon those...instead they released imagine: babies.  WTF?

 EDIT: It also released with Call of Duty 3, so there was no reason to think that the wii would miss out on all the big mulitplatform games either...

 



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The Ghost of RubangB on 18 February 2009
megaman79 said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
Actually this will be the generation remembered for the best leap forward in controller interface technology, and the best leap forward for the image of gaming as a worldwide family phenomenon instead of just for nerds. Nintendo is responsible for both of those. THANK THEM. THANK THEM NOW!

yeah, i know but shut up man, im trying to motivate these people. geez

Hahaha, okay.  In that case, I'm out of this thread.  Good luck!



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Paperdiego on 18 February 2009
Ail said:
Barozi said:
Ail said:
LoL.

To me this will be remembered as the generation with the most people that bought a console without looking at its game library and then spent half the gen asking for stuff they like to be ported to their console.......( and complaining about every port because it's not like the original...)

You sir will be flamed...... but not by me :)

 

If WallMart doesn't carry the brand of orange juice I like I don't start a petition about it or send them a dozen angry letters.

I go check Target or Safeway and see if they carry it...

 

lol you may not..but the teacher i had for english my junior year sure does...

people are crazy



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Lolcislaw on 18 February 2009

Im personally really happy with what Wii has to offer, especially with all the RPG games coming this year i will have hours and hours of fun, Hell i dont have time to play half of my games now. 3rd parties? Well its their business decisions and if they happy developing only certain games on the wii then fair enough it wont change anything for me personally.

For WRPG's ive got a PC, which does suit my needs.

But overall 3rd parties do put more effort into Wii than into the GC and N64 and their support will only increase.

I think 360/PS3 fans should stop being bitter about Wii and just accept that some people might actually enjoy it.



Procrastinato on 18 February 2009

They should sell a brain-wipe device for the Wii, that makes all Wii owners forget about the last gen, so the quality of Wii games seems better this gen, relative to two gens ago.

I was playing Splinter Cell (the original XBox one) on my 360 the other nite -- what a fantastic looking game for last gen that was... I wonder if the Wii will ever have something that looks so good, since its specs are kinda close... perhaps a little lacking in the texture dept, but otherwise close.

I know this is a serious debate waiting to happen, but to me, the Wii vs XBox comparison is a lot like the PS3 vs 360 comparison. One has more room for texture memory, and a more flexible GPU, and the other has more raw horsepower under the hood. Which ones games generally come out looking better, from 3rd parties?



 

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Lolcislaw on 18 February 2009
Tremble said:
Pfffff plz people, stop bashing 3rd parties, it's pretty clear now that regular games don't sell well on wii. Just look at the past japanese chartz, there were big third parties games and they all floped.

 

What games? Cause i dont remember anything "BIG"



flagship on 18 February 2009
megaman79 said:

So clearly whats happening is companies will not wait to develop a game specifically for Wii, that suits its attributes, because the Wii is getting a whole lot of lazy crap.

History will judge this generation as an absolute tragedy and mistake made by everyone in the industry. 3rd parties will crash and burn, while flailing their arms about in the deep blue ocean, only sparingly attempting to shoot a signal flare to be rescued.

That flare (the wii game) is just not enough. Why? Because the 360, that uses dvds, can produce big games with lots of new ideas and creativity (nintendo can do this obviously) but the Wii gets nothing. Nothing but a weak attempt at a quick cash in. Don't try and argue with me. Dead Space Wii is a cheap cash in just like Nascar racing is a cheap cash in.

History will say, this was the generation that everyone thought was over before it began, PS3 and 360 would destroy the Wii and 3rd parties would succeed on the HD systems. But this didn't happen. Now the Wii will go down in history as the "casual" console. Every attempt to "cash in" is a direct insult to what the Wii could have been. Big developers, excluding Sega, will be responsible for this continued labelling of the Wii.

What EA should have done was find out what is missing on the Wii and made that. They should have tried to replicate the xbox original build. They chose to make a game that was too common on the Wii to make it appealing enough.

I have advice for 3rd parties that continue to drag the Nintendo Wii's reputation through the mud. DO NOT MAKE ANY GAMES. Don't make them, there is no point if your can't bother to do things properly.

You are ruining the reputation of Nintendo and untill you go away for atleast 3 years and come back with something that genuinly works do not bother. Im starting to think the reviewers are right, that is the worst thing of all.

 

And what games has Nintendo brought us for the Wii recently?

Wii Music, oh boy!

And what quality games is Nintendo going to bring us in the near future?

Remakes of Metriod Prime, Mario Tennis and Pikmin....

 

Thrid parties aren't exactly the only ones slacking here.

 



BrainBoxLtd on 18 February 2009
Mr Khan said:

I'm still not seeing the hate for Dead Space Wii, at least not yet. To be a rail shooter doesn't necessarily make a judgement on the game's quality. My theory is not that it is a cash-in, but they are attempting to do a different spin on the game. They tried an exploration horror title, now they're trying a rail shooter, but purpotedly a rail shooter with depth.

People are probably upset because they see this as EA still unwilling to commit to the Wii like they do to the HD consoles. Instead of making a game similar to the orginal, they opted to make it a rail shooter. Something everyone knows does pretty well on the Wii. And that's disappointing because when I heard they were making a Dead Space game on the Wii I was hoping for something like the Dead Space game I played on my PS3. A horror-action title with a RE4-ish set-up, not a rail shooter.

It's probably (part of) the reason Dead Rising on the Wii is getting so much scorn. They made a game very different then the orginal Dead Rising, while they make the game's true sequel on the HD consoles. That doesn't mean it's automatically bad, but it's frustrating to see companies release spin-offs retooled to stereotyping while they clearly put their best efforts else where.

 



DavidF on 18 February 2009

@flagship

The remake of Pikmin is not such a bad idea it was a great game that many Wii owners could not play as they did not own a GameCube; and anyway it's just a bonus it does not replace a real new Pikmin which is under development. But what is true is that Nintendo has already released its major IP on the Wii (with Pikmin Wii to come), they must start thinking of something else... like a new Zelda genuinely for the Wii

Concerning the thread: I agree with the general idea, most of them just developed quickly anything using the Wii remote to make quick cash, but the good thing is that the market rewarded only the titles seriously developed (Nintendo and Sega's) so they will have to adjust to the demand and provide more quality titles.

Another problem for them is that on the Wii software market they are competing against Nintendo...



Veder Juda on 18 February 2009
DavidF said:
@flagship

Another problem for them is that on the Wii software market they are competing against Nintendo...

They'd have to compete against Nintendo regardless of what they do; they put their game on the Wii and they have to compete for attention of the same gamers; or they put it on the HD consoles, and then get hit when the Wii outsells the HD consoles.

Also, if they put their games on the HD consoles, they still have to compete against other big hardcore titles like GTA.

 



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