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outlawauron on 17 February 2009

I don't about scores, but these same reviewers still IU is a better game!!!!

And please selnor, take your crap elsewhere. You know RPG Fan (that specialist site that you said you use) gave Final Fantasy XII a 97/100.



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alekth on 17 February 2009

Apparently they gave Persona 4 a 80 (with 3/4 of the reviews being 90+). They seem like people who just shouldn't review JRPGs since they are not "into them".

From the cutscenes I've seen though, I'll agree with the poor dialogue/emotion animation.



outlawauron on 17 February 2009
ZenfoldorVGI said:

I told you guys this is how it would be....I always tell you how it will be.

In other news, WKS will probably end up like this as well. This isn't a genre you can phone in, in any way. Sparing expense, or even making very small mistakes often ruins a whole game. Not like shorter less focused games. They can afford mistakes. That's why this genre is the "favorite" genre of the core gamer. When done right, there is no besting it. It's like the lead Thundercat. It can do every strength of the other Thundercats better than they can.

It's just very hard to do it right, though. Bullet points are bullshit in a jrpg. All the conventions of other genres end up as shallow jokes. Any jrpg that isn't nearing perfection, will be viewed as shit. That's why it's so amazing when games like HoD, FES, and ToV come out. It's done so well in so many areas that it's shocking how many manhours must have been spent to make this boring ass premise so fun and interesting.

What's HoD?



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selnor on 17 February 2009
outlawauron said:
I don't about scores, but these same reviewers still IU is a better game!!!!

And please selnor, take your crap elsewhere. You know RPG Fan (that specialist site that you said you use) gave Final Fantasy XII a 97/100.

 

 Hey bro why the below trousers shot? It's only my opinion of FF.

When I go to those specialist sites I'm referring to the members reviews, not the eitors cut reviews. RPGfan and RPGamer have great reviews from public gamers who manage to get the game early. These are the reviews are generally adhere to. Became friends with some of the regulars there to. Generally most FF games dont do so highly in the core JRPG gamers on those sites. I can fully understand those new to JRPG's since say FF7 thinking that all FF's are god games, but to many who have played JRPG's from say the Nes days FF is beaten by many other games.

It's only my opinion dude. I tend to trust the hardcore JRPG reviews rather than media scripted editors hype reviews.



GooseGaws on 17 February 2009
outlawauron said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:

I told you guys this is how it would be....I always tell you how it will be.

In other news, WKS will probably end up like this as well. This isn't a genre you can phone in, in any way. Sparing expense, or even making very small mistakes often ruins a whole game. Not like shorter less focused games. They can afford mistakes. That's why this genre is the "favorite" genre of the core gamer. When done right, there is no besting it. It's like the lead Thundercat. It can do every strength of the other Thundercats better than they can.

It's just very hard to do it right, though. Bullet points are bullshit in a jrpg. All the conventions of other genres end up as shallow jokes. Any jrpg that isn't nearing perfection, will be viewed as shit. That's why it's so amazing when games like HoD, FES, and ToV come out. It's done so well in so many areas that it's shocking how many manhours must have been spent to make this boring ass premise so fun and interesting.

What's HoD?

I think he's referring to Disgaea: Hour of Darkness, as opposed to Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance.



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pbroy on 17 February 2009
GooseGaws said:
outlawauron said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:

I told you guys this is how it would be....I always tell you how it will be.

In other news, WKS will probably end up like this as well. This isn't a genre you can phone in, in any way. Sparing expense, or even making very small mistakes often ruins a whole game. Not like shorter less focused games. They can afford mistakes. That's why this genre is the "favorite" genre of the core gamer. When done right, there is no besting it. It's like the lead Thundercat. It can do every strength of the other Thundercats better than they can.

It's just very hard to do it right, though. Bullet points are bullshit in a jrpg. All the conventions of other genres end up as shallow jokes. Any jrpg that isn't nearing perfection, will be viewed as shit. That's why it's so amazing when games like HoD, FES, and ToV come out. It's done so well in so many areas that it's shocking how many manhours must have been spent to make this boring ass premise so fun and interesting.

What's HoD?

I think he's referring to Disgaea: Hour of Darkness, as opposed to Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance.

 

I was thinking House of the Dead, but that makes more sense.

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Riachu on 17 February 2009
alekth said:
Apparently they gave Persona 4 a 80 (with 3/4 of the reviews being 90+). They seem like people who just shouldn't review JRPGs since they are not "into them".

From the cutscenes I've seen though, I'll agree with the poor dialogue/emotion animation.

This would be a gamebreaking flaw if it were an inhouse S-E game.

 



 

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forevercloud3000 on 17 February 2009

I dont get why so many JRPGs suffer from terrible dialogue still. Dont these writers listen to this garbage? FFXII, Persona 3 and 4, and VC don't have one corny line in the entire game. And the Personas and VC are low budget(lower then say something SE produces).

I say Atlus should do all JRPG localization jobs...



      

      

      

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g-value on 17 February 2009
forevercloud3000 said:
I dont get why so many JRPGs suffer from terrible dialogue still. Dont these writers listen to this garbage? FFXII, Persona 3 and 4, and VC don't have one corny line in the entire game. And the Personas and VC are low budget(lower then say something SE produces).

I say Atlus should do all JRPG localization jobs...

 

There are alot of games that get localization for Atlus and they have garbage voice acting



pbroy on 17 February 2009
g-value said:
forevercloud3000 said:
I dont get why so many JRPGs suffer from terrible dialogue still. Dont these writers listen to this garbage? FFXII, Persona 3 and 4, and VC don't have one corny line in the entire game. And the Personas and VC are low budget(lower then say something SE produces).

I say Atlus should do all JRPG localization jobs...

 

There are alot of games that get localization for Atlus and they have garbage voice acting

 

Spectral Force 3 comes to mind, awesome game other than that.

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