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naznatips said:
Whoa, wait. 30FPS and 720p?? You have to be kidding me. That can't be the final resolution and framerate. Someone PLEASE tell me that's not the final resolution and framerate. Metroid Prime 3 runs at 60 FPS...

 actually locking a game at 30FPS then having a game at 60FPS unlocked and unstable is quite a bit better. even Epic decided to lock UT3 at 30FPS because it allows the system to handle larger amounts of things to happen on screen without skipping a beat because instead of trying to force a large amount of frames the system can focus on whats going on instead. Thats why theres a huge amount of things going on in games like Resistance, Killzone 2, and Unreal 3. The amount of physics calculations going on in these games alone is insane so is better to lock it at a stable framerate that is easily obtained instead of having to worry about framerate issues. 



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The textures aren't really that impressive, but I find the character models to be quite appealing. Graphically, I mean.



Has any game ever run above 60 FPS?



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dtewi said:
Has any game ever run above 60 FPS?

 no but all PSN store games run at 1080p and 60FPS. 



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MontanaHatchet said:
Some of you act like 720p is a crime, although I admit that Sony and Guerilla (spelling?) could have done better. The game will still be graphically incredible, even without 1080p.

Oh, and frames per second are overrated.

Lol don't let PC FPS gamers hear you say that.  You'll need a very large flameshield.

ssj12, I agree that IF you can not make 60 FPS stable then 30 FPS is preferable, but if a Wii can do a stable 60 FPS at 480p you can't tell me a PS3 can't do 60 FPS at 720p.   



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MontanaHatchet said:
Some of you act like 720p is a crime, although I admit that Sony and Guerilla (spelling?) could have done better. The game will still be graphically incredible, even without 1080p.

Oh, and frames per second are overrated

Not in an FPS

Furthermore, all the BS marketing TRUE HD @ 60FPS is comming back to make them look like idiots.

Tssj12; there are games that run at over 60fps...



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

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naznatips said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Some of you act like 720p is a crime, although I admit that Sony and Guerilla (spelling?) could have done better. The game will still be graphically incredible, even without 1080p.

Oh, and frames per second are overrated.

Lol don't let PC FPS gamers hear you say that. You'll need a very large flameshield.

ssj12, I agree that IF you can not make 60 FPS stable then 30 FPS is preferable, but if a Wii can do a stable 60 FPS at 480p you can't tell me a PS3 can't do 60 FPS at 720p.


 so ur saying a game designed to have less calculations perframe on a worse platform makes it a crime for the betterplatform to have a lower frame rate?

 

30fps locked is definitely good enough (60 locked, if anyone does that, is better), but from this team i would expect at least 1080p (had to say it).



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sieanr said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Some of you act like 720p is a crime, although I admit that Sony and Guerilla (spelling?) could have done better. The game will still be graphically incredible, even without 1080p.

Oh, and frames per second are overrated

Not in an FPS

Furthermore, all the BS marketing TRUE HD @ 60FPS is comming back to make them look like idiots.

Tssj12; there are games that run at over 60fps...


 on this subject.  do you know how cpu's are compared?  they do a bunch of benchmarks and then some sites who want to test them in real situations run them on games.  they dont test how much free time the cpu has after each frame, but how many frames it can run per second.  i remember some card hitting over 120 on stuff like oblivion and graw.

 yes, sony's marketing of true hd at 1080p 60fps, has really killed it.  people should be able to do 1080p on the ps3 and most likely the 360.



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soccerdrew17 said:
naznatips said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Some of you act like 720p is a crime, although I admit that Sony and Guerilla (spelling?) could have done better. The game will still be graphically incredible, even without 1080p.

Oh, and frames per second are overrated.

Lol don't let PC FPS gamers hear you say that. You'll need a very large flameshield.

ssj12, I agree that IF you can not make 60 FPS stable then 30 FPS is preferable, but if a Wii can do a stable 60 FPS at 480p you can't tell me a PS3 can't do 60 FPS at 720p.


so ur saying a game designed to have less calculations perframe on a worse platform makes it a crime for the betterplatform to have a lower frame rate?

 

30fps locked is definitely good enough (60 locked, if anyone does that, is better), but from this team i would expect at least 1080p (had to say it).


No, I'm using it as an example to prove the PS3 has the capability, and then I'm complaining about it not utilizing that capability.  Just the same as I criticize Wii games that are half-assed, I don't think it's right for any "killer-ap" to not utilize the power of it's system to it's fullest.  Obviously MP3 has much fewer processes to and calculations per framerate to make that 60 FPS lock work, but by amount of calculations per processing power, is it a difference?  Actually come to think of it, I take that back.  Metroid Prime 3 has an advantage because of it's style.  Areas are loaded one at a time and separated by doors.  When you open the door to the next room there is a short delay because it loads the room individually, allowing for more advanced effects and faster framerates than the Wii would be capable of in a single connected area.



naznatips said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Some of you act like 720p is a crime, although I admit that Sony and Guerilla (spelling?) could have done better. The game will still be graphically incredible, even without 1080p.

Oh, and frames per second are overrated.

Lol don't let PC FPS gamers hear you say that. You'll need a very large flameshield.

ssj12, I agree that IF you can not make 60 FPS stable then 30 FPS is preferable, but if a Wii can do a stable 60 FPS at 480p you can't tell me a PS3 can't do 60 FPS at 720p.


 its a matter of how big the environment and amount of things going on in game. Seriously i doubt metriod will have half the things going on at once that Unreal, Killzone, or Resistance has going on. I dont think there is constant explosions, gun fire from all sides, building crumbling, 3 different types of grenades going off at the same time, 5 different types of enemies on screen at once, lightning flashing randomly in the sky, cloud effects, smoke effects, fire effects. I played Metriod Prime 2 and did see a good bit going on and yes the Wii is stronger then the GC which means it can do more, so they can easily take everything thats going on in Metriod 2, bump that up a bit, and run it at a stable 60FPS at 480p. If metriod 3 had the amount of stuff going on that Resistance does and ran at 720p it wouldnt be able to hold a stable 60FPS. The Wii just doesnt have the power behind it to do that much physics calculations. It can do a good amount, but not half of what the PS3 and 360 can do on screen at once. 



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