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Oyvoyvoyv on 10 February 2009
SamuelRSmith said:
Khuutra said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Well, next generation will be the one where the UK will get a very firm cementing in second place, and the EU as a whole will probably become the single largest and most important market.

Isn't it kind of lopsided to compare an entire continent with how many hundreds of millions of people to one country of the US's size?

 

 Well, yes, but with every Treaty the EU moves closer to being a single country

Population sizes (roughly):

US: 300 million
EU: 500 million

Actually, you could say that western Europe will be on size with the US.

That's

Germany = 82M

France = 65M

United Kingdom = 61M

Italy = 60M

Spain = 46M

Scandinavia = 17M

Total = 331M

 

Vs

 

USA = 306M

Canada = 33M

= 339M

(This is VGC americas * 0.97)

 

That's a completely fair comparison.

 

So far this gen:

Western Europe = 70.8M

Americas * 0.97 = 90.8M

 

That's really the fairest (most fair?) comparison between the two.

 

If you go by 08 sales only, this is what you get.

 

Western Europe = 31.3M

Americas * 0.97 = 36.2M

 

So it's relatively close.

 

... And finally. 2009 so far (and no, I didn't count an extra Others week)

 

Western Europe: 2.83M

Americas *0.97= 2.89M



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SciFiBoy on 10 February 2009

nice! go UK!



Pristine20 on 10 February 2009

UK will overtake japan with roughly half JP's population? Wow, JP has fallen or simply aged lol.



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freedquaker on 11 February 2009
justinian said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Hapimeses said:
Regardless of how much everyone else seems to accept Japan eventually falling behind the UK, I'm, personally, pretty surprised it's actually happening. We're not that rich, and we're not that big, but apparently we love ourselves a bit of gaming.

 

 We're the fifth richest nation in the world (In order: US, Japan, Germany, China, UK (China and Germany switch around depending on who does the estimating)). However, due to population sizes, we have more money per person than all of those other countries.

Also, we, on average, work around 200 hours per year less than out Stateside cousins and the Japanese, although the Germans work 300 hours less than us.

In essence, we have more money per person than the Japanese, and more spare time to play games.

I think you miss the point. 

China is in the top five but out of the 1.+ billion what % enjoy a high standard of living?

The Human Developement Index means a lot more than simply the countries wealth.

It takes along with other things the GDP per Capita and the PPP (Purchasing Power Parities) to measure a country's standard of living. Japan is at 8, UK is at 21.

Meaning the average Japanese worker earn more and has more purchasing power than the average UK worker.

 

 

     One of the shortfalls about the Human Development Index is that It does not properly measure the material well being. The world has such great amounts of poverty and inequality that it has to place too much importance on very basic concepts like adult literacy, basic education etc. These stuff are vital for developing countries but dont mean too much for the developed ones. So a comparison between China and the US doesnt mean so much. It is a fairer to compare China with India for example, or the US with the UK. There are also many other factors contributing to the quality of life that are not counted in HDI at all. In the US, you can freely travel all across the huge country without language & travelling barriers and many red tape stuff associated with that. And you usually dont need a visa to go abroad and most people will speak English more or less. Thats a VERY good deal of well-being, not counted in HDI the least bit.

 

 



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justinian on 11 February 2009
freedquaker said:
justinian said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Hapimeses said:
Regardless of how much everyone else seems to accept Japan eventually falling behind the UK, I'm, personally, pretty surprised it's actually happening. We're not that rich, and we're not that big, but apparently we love ourselves a bit of gaming.

 

 We're the fifth richest nation in the world (In order: US, Japan, Germany, China, UK (China and Germany switch around depending on who does the estimating)). However, due to population sizes, we have more money per person than all of those other countries.

Also, we, on average, work around 200 hours per year less than out Stateside cousins and the Japanese, although the Germans work 300 hours less than us.

In essence, we have more money per person than the Japanese, and more spare time to play games.

I think you miss the point. 

China is in the top five but out of the 1.+ billion what % enjoy a high standard of living?

The Human Developement Index means a lot more than simply the countries wealth.

It takes along with other things the GDP per Capita and the PPP (Purchasing Power Parities) to measure a country's standard of living. Japan is at 8, UK is at 21.

Meaning the average Japanese worker earn more and has more purchasing power than the average UK worker.

 

 

     One of the shortfalls about the Human Development Index is that It does not properly measure the material well being. The world has such great amounts of poverty and inequality that it has to place too much importance on very basic concepts like adult literacy, basic education etc. These stuff are vital for developing countries but dont mean too much for the developed ones. So a comparison between China and the US doesnt mean so much. It is a fairer to compare China with India for example, or the US with the UK. There are also many other factors contributing to the quality of life that are not counted in HDI at all. In the US, you can freely travel all across the huge country without language & travelling barriers and many red tape stuff associated with that. And you usually dont need a visa to go abroad and most people will speak English more or less. Thats a VERY good deal of well-being, not counted in HDI the least bit.

 

 

I agree. It never claimed to be perfect and I am not saying it is. I am glad that the UK is in the big 2 but saying it is there because the UK nationals earn more money than the Japanese is wrong.

 

Maybe the Japanese have just moved on to other things, I don't know.



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DirtyP2002 on 11 February 2009
justinian said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Hapimeses said:
Regardless of how much everyone else seems to accept Japan eventually falling behind the UK, I'm, personally, pretty surprised it's actually happening. We're not that rich, and we're not that big, but apparently we love ourselves a bit of gaming.

 

 We're the fifth richest nation in the world (In order: US, Japan, Germany, China, UK (China and Germany switch around depending on who does the estimating)). However, due to population sizes, we have more money per person than all of those other countries.

Also, we, on average, work around 200 hours per year less than out Stateside cousins and the Japanese, although the Germans work 300 hours less than us.

In essence, we have more money per person than the Japanese, and more spare time to play games.

I think you miss the point. 

China is in the top five but out of the 1.+ billion what % enjoy a high standard of living?

The Human Developement Index means a lot more than simply the countries wealth.

It takes along with other things the GDP per Capita and the PPP (Purchasing Power Parities) to measure a country's standard of living. Japan is at 8, UK is at 21.

Meaning the average Japanese worker earn more and has more purchasing power than the average UK worker.

 

 

 ??? What about

  • Saudi Arabia? Dubai anyone?
  • Australia?
  • Switzerland? (Definately richer than Germany)
  • Luxemburg?
  • Norway (tons of oil - largest Fund in the world belongs to Norway. All the money made with oil gets into this fund to secure retirement provisions) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway#Resources
  • Liechtenstein

There are too many aspects to define "rich" or "wealth". Resources / PPP / Debt of the state / economic growth etc. To list China is strange. I mean there are like 300 million chinese people trying to get something to eat every day. They have no electricity at all. It just doesn't fit to call them "rich" IMO.



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