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The_vagabond7 on 08 February 2009
Rpruett said:
Mirson said:
I agree kn. Killzone 2 is nothing special. I read all the impressions on the demo while I was at work, and when I downloaded it and finished it, I ROFL'ed. It felt like playing just another average shooter. It wasn't the most amazing shooter ever. The demo didn't left me with the expression of wanting more. Graphics were okay, not as great as the screenshots or videos.

The BioShock demo was amazing, and it made me want more. Fear 2 left me with a good impression, so did Skate 2 and Valkyria, but KZ2....nah.

 

Fear 2?  Surely you're joking right.  I play Fear 2 and I feel like it's an N64 game.  The textures are absolutely atrocious.  The gameplay is bland and boring.   Honestly,  you must not be a big shooter fan if you honestly enjoyed Fear 2's demo more than KZ2. 

I just don't see how anyone could remotely have that opinion.

Opinions are so stupid. We should just agree with you instead.

 



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Rpruett on 08 February 2009
The_vagabond7 said:
Rpruett said:
Mirson said:
I agree kn. Killzone 2 is nothing special. I read all the impressions on the demo while I was at work, and when I downloaded it and finished it, I ROFL'ed. It felt like playing just another average shooter. It wasn't the most amazing shooter ever. The demo didn't left me with the expression of wanting more. Graphics were okay, not as great as the screenshots or videos.

The BioShock demo was amazing, and it made me want more. Fear 2 left me with a good impression, so did Skate 2 and Valkyria, but KZ2....nah.

 

Fear 2?  Surely you're joking right.  I play Fear 2 and I feel like it's an N64 game.  The textures are absolutely atrocious.  The gameplay is bland and boring.   Honestly,  you must not be a big shooter fan if you honestly enjoyed Fear 2's demo more than KZ2. 

I just don't see how anyone could remotely have that opinion.

Opinions are so stupid. We should just agree with you instead.

 

I just think it's a horrible opinion.  When a big reasoning for your discontent with a game is "Kill Zone's graphics are 'okay'" and Fear 2 leaves you with a good impression?  Please.  Any objective person clearly would say Kill Zone 2 blows Fear 2's graphics out of the water. 

I could careless if he likes Kill Zone 2.  No game is for everybody.  I haven't liked a Halo since Halo 1.  A lot of people will disagree with that.  I just think the comparison was out of whack.

 

 

 

 



outlawauron on 08 February 2009
makingmusic476 said:

But yeah, the Haze hype died down pretty singificantly after it was delayed to 2008.  On neogaf, a thread couldn't be made about Haze before it was filled up with the Haze hate brigade.  It was quite the anomoly on that forum in particular.

But you can continue to believe that Haze was hyped to hell and back so you can use it as ammo against ps3 fanboys all you want.  ^_^

Couldn't agree more. People stopped caring after the numerous delays.



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kutasek on 08 February 2009

It doesn't need to be special, iv'e played the bitch 13 times, and still coming back, i've enjoyed it. If you don't like it wait for call of duty or something. We don't need treads about it, everywhere.



kn on 08 February 2009

Wow, I go off to a meeting and find so much hate and vitriol.

A few important points for those that seemed to only read the negative parts of my post and none of the positives.

A) I didn't compare it to Halo on the 360.

B) I said the graphics are top notch.

C) I stated that it has a lock on realism this gen from a physics perspective.

D) I said the graphics overall were about the same as the two current "top games" in the graphics category -- Gears 2 and MGS 4. Both are quite solid graphically and this most certainly shouldn't be interpreted as an insult. If I've compared it to MGS 4, Sony die-hards should be thrilled given how great everyone thinks it is... How is that negative?

E) I even added that it looks like a polished Call of Duty. Isn't that a compliment in saying that is is graphically better than one of the best shooters to have come out this generation? (I was specifically talking about the last two iterations, but I'm more familiar with COD4)

F) I stated "Demo AI" and "Based on the demo", and "I'm going to wait for the full game to come out and read more reviews". What part of me clearly talking about basing my impressions on the demo is hard to understand?



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kutasek on 08 February 2009

I think i should create my own I hate killzone 2 demo tread, i would learn a lot, of vg$.



psrock on 08 February 2009
kn said:
Wow, I go off to a meeting and find so much hate and vitriol.

A few important points for those that seemed to only read the negative parts of my post and none of the positives.

A) I didn't compare it to Halo on the 360.

B) I said the graphics are top notch.

C) I stated that it has a lock on realism this gen from a physics perspective.

D) I said the graphics overall were about the same as the two current "top games" in the graphics category -- Gears 2 and MGS 4. Both are quite solid graphically and this most certainly shouldn't be interpreted as an insult. If I've compared it to MGS 4, Sony die-hards should be thrilled given how great everyone thinks it is... How is that negative?

E) I even added that it looks like a polished Call of Duty. Isn't that a compliment in saying that is is graphically better than one of the best shooters to have come out this generation? (I was specifically talking about the last two iterations, but I'm more familiar with COD4)

F) I stated "Demo AI" and "Based on the demo", and "I'm going to wait for the full game to come out and read more reviews". What part of me clearly talking about basing my impressions on the demo is hard to understand?

i dont mind you expecting so much from a FPS, you know. But what other reviews are you waiting for? I am kind of  curious. 100 isnt enough for you. 

 



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kutasek on 08 February 2009
psrock said:
kn said:
Wow, I go off to a meeting and find so much hate and vitriol.

A few important points for those that seemed to only read the negative parts of my post and none of the positives.

A) I didn't compare it to Halo on the 360.

B) I said the graphics are top notch.

C) I stated that it has a lock on realism this gen from a physics perspective.

D) I said the graphics overall were about the same as the two current "top games" in the graphics category -- Gears 2 and MGS 4. Both are quite solid graphically and this most certainly shouldn't be interpreted as an insult. If I've compared it to MGS 4, Sony die-hards should be thrilled given how great everyone thinks it is... How is that negative?

E) I even added that it looks like a polished Call of Duty. Isn't that a compliment in saying that is is graphically better than one of the best shooters to have come out this generation? (I was specifically talking about the last two iterations, but I'm more familiar with COD4)

F) I stated "Demo AI" and "Based on the demo", and "I'm going to wait for the full game to come out and read more reviews". What part of me clearly talking about basing my impressions on the demo is hard to understand?

i dont mind you expecting so much from a FPS, you know. But what other reviews are you waiting for? I am kind of  curious. 100 isnt enough for you. 

 

He of course waits for the vgchartz review, what else.

 



The_vagabond7 on 08 February 2009
makingmusic476 said:
The_vagabond7 said:

This man speaks with reason.

 

This topic scares me, I must go now.

 

 

Outside of Twingo and maybe Skeeuk, I'm not seeing too many "rabid fanboys" "hammering" the OP.  I don't see what's so scary.

Honestly, this thread seems to be full of three types of people:

1. People defending the game (or simply stating why the enjoyed it).

2. People going "OMG the fanboys are attacking anybody who doesn't like the game!" (This is slightly exaggerated, of course, but their comments seem to be greatly exaggerating the contents of the thread.)

3. People not really adding anything to the thread, like those saying nothing more than "I agree" or "ANOTHER thread about the demo!?"

 

Alright, hold that thought...

 

"Fear 2?  Surely you're joking right.  I play Fear 2 and I feel like it's an N64 game.  The textures are absolutely atrocious.  The gameplay is bland and boring.   Honestly,  you must not be a big shooter fan if you honestly enjoyed Fear 2's demo more than KZ2. 

I just don't see how anyone could remotely have that opinion."

"Opinions are so stupid. We should just agree with you instead."

 

"I just think it's a horrible opinion.  When a big reasoning for your discontent with a game is "Kill Zone's graphics are 'okay'" and Fear 2 leaves you with a good impression?  Please.  Any objective person clearly would say Kill Zone 2 blows Fear 2's graphics out of the water. "

 

Yep, no over exagerated fanboy rage here... (keep in mind, the guy he was talking to never said Fear 2 had better graphics, merely that he like the demo better). Carry on.



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kn on 08 February 2009
Pristine20 said:

Funny enough, after browsing through the thread, it's people who don't use/like their ps3's at all who don't like killzone 2/think it's "generic" whereas people who love their ps3s love this game.

Perhaps this is a mind game. When one has convinced oneself that one doesn't/will not like something, one would never like it lol.

 

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I happen to be quite fond of my PS3.  I use it for blu-ray movies, PS2 games, and PS3 games.  I now have 3 controllers for it so we can all play LBP together.  It is currently getting quite a bit of play time on several PS3 titles and Champions of Norrath (PS2).  Last night I moved it down to the lower part of my entertainment center so it is easier to get to when I have my projection screen down while my 360 and Wii remain trapped behind the screen. (I have to raise the screen to change a disc which is a PITA but I can't trust my 360 in a closed cabinet like I can my PS3).

Note:  I never convinced myself that I would/wouldn't like KZ2.  From the reviews, I WAS convinced that the graphics are god-like and the game redefines the FPS genre.  Again, assuming the demo is somewhat indicative of the final game (and that's a big assumption), The game is neither.  It is clearly still a quality title, but the uber-hype requires a new grading scale -- say an 11 or 12 out of 10.   "Best Ever" from the first review on the site with many similar comments to follow.... Perhaps in the top 5 this gen, but best EVER?  That's a bit strong, don't you think?



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