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Galaki on 06 February 2009
Khuutra said:

Yes, there is. There was no other way to say what he meant

 

Well, you could either say,

"You are ugly."

or

"You look okay."

Both means the same to some people :)

Eventhough, the second one is a lie.



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Squilliam on 06 February 2009
Galaki said:
Khuutra said:

Yes, there is. There was no other way to say what he meant

 

Well, you could either say,

"You are ugly."

or

"You look okay."

Both means the same to some people :)

Eventhough, the second one is a lie.

Khuutra has never lied to me when we were gardening together. He always called a spade a spade even though I always wanted to call them shovels.

 



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Final-Fan on 06 February 2009
Pristine20 said:
Khuutra said:
First rule of quoting a person, wherein one uses quotation marks, is to actually quote them. Do not paraphrase.

"The PS3 is a total disaster on so many levels, I think it's really clear that Sony lost track of what customers and what developers wanted," said Newell. "I'd say, even at this late date, they should just cancel it and do a 'do over.' Just say, 'This was a horrible disaster and we're sorry and we're going to stop selling this and stop trying to convince people to develop for it.'"

Nothing he says here is particularly objectionable. Sony did lose track of what customers wanted, Sony did lose track of what developers wanted, that have been many people who suggested Sony should recoup their losses and try again, and if Sony said what he suggests they should, they would go a long way toward repairing their image.

Given that it's an interview where he gave the answer on the spot, I think he did fine.
If you ask me, that was the sentiment that got sega to canning saturn and creating DC which was an excellent console in it's own merit but look what happened. Something tells me he'll be the first to run far away if sony had canned the ps3 to develop another console. When it's not one's money or time, it's easy to pull statements out one's ass. Who would trust sony again if they had canned the ps3 to produce something else. I still think his wording was rather strong but I don't thnk we'll ever agree on that one so I'll leave that aside.

I've got to agree with Pristine20 on this one.  Newell isn't suggesting that they simply hunker down, ride out the generation, and do better next time -- that would be sane.  No, he's saying Sony ought to kill off the PS3 and immediately come out with something new.  That is madness.  I don't know if he just pulled that out of his ass without thinking it through, or is that ignorant of consoles, or maybe he didn't really mean to say exactly what he said; but trying to launch a new console at this stage would destroy Sony both financially and in reputation.  It would be at least as damaging as Sega's famous hardware death spiral IMO. 

The first part of his comment may be correct, and he's entitled to his opinion on the rest, but his opinion as stated is not very smart (IMO). 



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Khuutra on 06 February 2009

@Rpruett:

I am not here to argue with Sony apologists. Sony made the wrong decision in this round of the console war, period. Trying to pretend they didn't expect to win is ludicrous.



Spankey on 06 February 2009

Bottom line is, Gabe does what Gabe wants to do with his company.

Full respect for him.

If he feels like a potential audience of nearly 20 million people should be ignored for whatever reason, that's also fine. He can put his money where he wants to.

It's his decision. Let him have it. If EA feels like a port is neccesary for Valve games, let them do it like they did for Orange box (only hopefully a bit better than they did with Episode 2). no hard feelings either way.

Crying over this is like crying over Miyamoto not making games for the PS360



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Khuutra on 06 February 2009
Spankey said:
Bottom line is, Gabe does what Gabe wants to do with his company.

Full respect for him.

If he feels like a potential audience of nearly 20 million people should be ignored for whatever reason, that's also fine. He can put his money where he wants to.

It's his decision. Let him have it. If EA feels like a port is neccesary for Valve games, let them do it like they did for Orange box (only hopefully a bit better than they did with Episode 2). no hard feelings either way.

Crying over this is like crying over Miyamoto not making games for the PS360

Agreed. It's the same thing that always happens with third party exclusivity - each company has its own valid reasons for doing what they do.



The Ghost of RubangB on 06 February 2009

Let's see.... did Sony help get Portal into my life? Nope. Gabe can say whatever he wants.

And PS3 fans, don't get all butthurt. Gabe didn't attack you or your favorite games. He attacked Sony's business strategies, which have been really stupid for years and destroying the entire company from within.



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cheese_man on 06 February 2009

What a fat xbot, i'm sure he is only saying that due to microsoft writing a big cheque to him.



Cobretti2 on 06 February 2009

this news sounds like a fanboy rant. No proffesionalism in it.

They need to re write that article with some meaning and less dribble and more pauses.



 

 

luisgvm on 06 February 2009
Khuutra said:
luisgvm said:
Khuutra said:
darthdevidem01 said:
@khuutra

he did talk "shit" about the PS3

however SONY is one of the most important companies in the industry

I hate the arrogant man....don't care if he created a great game

he has no right to be an arrogant bitch about it

TBH after seeing COd4 & COD5 sales on the PS3....HIS company NEEDS PS3 more than PS3 needs them

No, his company doesn't need the PS3. At all. The consoles are just extra money to Valve. They have the digital distribution for the entire PC world in the palm of their hands with Steam.

And he can talk shit about the PS3! He's a game designer complainign from a game designer's perspective, and a businessman doing the same! He is allowed.

 

yes but he needs to act like an adult an professional because thats what he is. he cant be insulting and start "talking shit" about a console like if he is a kid or a fanboy and he is not complaining "from a game designers perspective" he is the one talking shit saying stupid things about the ps3. and if he has not develop for the ps3 how can he say all those things about the console. first try it and then give your opinion. he can be an exelent developer, but all his reputation goes to the garbage when he talk like that. people are not going to take him seriously. and thats what i hate so much about sony and ms sometimes they are completely arrogants and stupids. please people you guys are professionals so act like one.

I think that Gabe Newell's reputation, and that of his game studio, will weather him saying things that are true about the PS3.

And no, Valve should not "give the PS3 a chance". They are too small to create an engine that would work on the PS3, and the returns on making a game for Sony's platform would be microscopic compared to the kind of money that Valve makes delivering an experience on Steam.

 

so you agree with him when he and valve say all those things and being inmature? ok thats your opinion. but i dont agree with that. and if you agree with that then dont start saying that sony is arrongant, sony is this, sony is that. because they are as arrogant as sony. i am starting to think that they hate the ps3 because they are a little pro-ms because they havent work for the wii or the ds or the psp either. those are hard to develop for too?. and if he have not worked for the ps3 then dont talk about the console until you try it. just let ms buy you and get it over with if you always want to work for the pc and an architecture similar to a pc.