You said "What everyone thinks about the game is wrong" (Saying that MGS4 has great graphics and everyone agrees with it cause it won a FEW Graphic awards)

I said "And actually Gears 1 wont best graphics in 07 so i guess they were all right to? So Gears 1 = best graphics ever?" (Meaning that Graphic awards mean squat cause there handed out every year and a game cannot win the award twice.

Is     that        easy       enough       for           you            to            understand?         ?         ?        ?

Well, considering you said the exact same thing, this is my response as to whether what you are saying is making any sense: not really.  Is english your first language (serious question)?

I think you'll find Gears of War didn't win a single "Best Graphics of 2007" award, actually.

Oh, and MGS4 won most graphics awards for 2008. Gears 2 won several as well.

Why the hell did you say "Not really" all the times if you were agreeing with me? and im done cause your not staying on subject.

You're the one that branched down this path of the original topic. I'll have to play single player before I know if KZ2 is better than MGS4 in graphics.

Let's summarize: you said that MGS4 doesn't have awesome graphics like people think. If people think that, who are you to tell them they are wrong? So I say: not really. You say: care to elaborate? I say: not really, because you are saying what I think is wrong from the get go. You say: then you have no argument. I say: not really, because whatever I say you are just going to say I don't think correctly, so what argument can I have? (hence I agreed with you, saying I don't really have an argument)

Now, that said...what you followed with makes absolutely no sense. I said MGS4 won many awards for it's graphics, meaning it's not just gamers on this site that you are saying think incorrectly. You say, the previous year, that Gears of War won graphics awards and must be the best looking game ever? What? How did my logic lead to that, as you claim? Even if Gears was the best in 2007, which it couldn't have been because it came out in 2006 (as Kantor alludes to above), then how does that stop MGS4 from looking good in 2008?

thank to you for the last 3 pages this thread has been a waste of time for the rest of us.. are you done feeding your egos on a argument that has no point and no end ? thats exactly what i was talking about when i said that those threads  devolve into a flame war most of the time... do you feel better now... did this give you something?

 Actually, MGS4 also won for best score

^With good reason. Although I personally preferred Prince of Persia's soundtrack.

Yeah man, any time. Although, it is hard to stroke my ego when the guy I'm supposedly arguing with makes no sense at all. Thanks for your support, though.

Edit:  Also, this is only 1 page for me.  I have my settings for 100 posts a page.

lol you missed you oppertunity to say "not really" again!

OT: I've MGS4, and it is epic. I haven't played KZ2 yet. But as soon as I have played both, I'll be able to compare them