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And before insulting me try to apply the same method as I did on Eurogamers' review od Gears of War 2


I dare you

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/gears-of-war-2-review?page=2



God i hate fanboys, almost as much as they hate facts

 

“If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people together to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea” Antoine de St-Exupery

  +2Q  -2N  (to be read in french)

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@Usul:
you´re wrong they only GAVE high scores to the 360 games, like fable II, halo 3, the 360 version´s of GTA IV and Fallout3 (They didn´t review the ps3´s version´s, think about that). They gave MGS4 an 8/10? Can you believe them?



Gh0st4lifE said:

People shouldn't trust scores plublished under an embargo. Instead they should take a look at the reviews and read between the lines. Despite giving a 9/10 Eurogamer doesn't seem very hyped about the game.

Read these excerps :

GRAPHICS

"The internet will no doubt rage for weeks as to whether Killzone 2 is the best-looking console game evah, but it's fair to say that if there's a list, it's going to be near the top."

GAMEPLAY

"It swiftly becomes apparent that Killzone 2 isn't going to be pushing beyond the boundaries of its genre."

SCENARIO

"All could have been drawn from any shooter of the last five years, and it's only the mixture of convincing animation and above-average voice acting that brings them [the caracters] to life. The script certainly doesn't help much, since most of it seems to consist of people barking "F*** dis shit!" and "Go! Go!" over and over."

"The revival system also makes a mockery of a later plot development, which I won't spoil. Suffice to say that anyone who wondered why Cloud didn't just use a Phoenix Down on Aeris will face a similar clash between the needs of the story and the mechanics of the gameplay."

MULTIPLAYER

It's really only once you've unlocked these options that the multiplayer comes to life, feeling narrow in scope at first but offering enviable depth in the long term.

CONCLUSION

Taken as a whole, Killzone 2 doesn't initially seem to offer enough to justify the superlatives that have been dutifully set aside by the PS3 faithful. Despite the often-stunning graphics, it's often derivative of other titles and doesn't - on the surface - seem to have much that distinguishes it from the herd.

It's deceptive though. This is a methodical shooter that makes few concessions to those not already interested in its single-minded approach to cover-based military action. I've compared it to Rainbow Six in the past, but it also calls to mind F.E.A.R, another tough tactical effort that was often misunderstood by those expecting a frag-happy spook hunt. Killzone 2 is a taut and muscular game, a shooter that gives back more than you put in, provided you have the intestinal fortitude. It may take its time revealing its true depths and pleasures, but the journey is well worth taking. Between Killzone 2's unforgiving grit and Resistance 2's alien-bursting excess, the PS3 finally has both ends of the shooter spectrum covered in grand style.

Actually, it reads like most of their reviews: measured, well-reasoned, honest about the reviewer's biases and forthcoming about his point of view.

It seems to me that you want it to be a spittle-flecked, foaming-at-the-mouth, 'it's the greatest thing ever'-type review before being willing to concede that the score is justified by the accompanying text when, in actuality, explicit levelheadedness and sober appraisal is their hallmark and is why a large number of people put a great deal of stock in their reviews (and I don't say this as a deranged Sony fanboy--I won't be buying the game--but as a fan of Eurogamer's brand of careful critique).




Dallinor said:
gebx said:
darthdevidem01 said:
where is zenfolder? madskillz? starcraft -- the M$ trio

I'll respond for them... (if you guys don't mind)

- Every single PS3 exclusive have been hyped beyond belief. Its like the boy who kept crying wolf.. he was bound to be right one day.

- Killzone 2 has been in production for so long that there's no way it will ever be a profitable game, $40-$60 million budget?

- (my favorite response) pheww... FPS? That's so Xbox 1.0 .... :p

I don't remember Haze being hyped beyond belief. Or even MS2 or R&C. Looks like the hype in this case was justified though, eh?

You have no idea what the budget for the game is. Why is that point even being brought up?

Overall, it sounds like you just couldn't keep the bitterness from your post.

 

http://ps3.qj.net/Rumor-Killzone-2-budget-doubled-because-of-Guerrilla-Games-/pg/49/aid/112518

 

There are many Killzone 2 budget stories on the net and they mostly point to 60 million.

 



Heh, I've been hating on this game for a while, expecting it to suck based on Killzone 1. I'm still skeptical of early reviews after the Gamespot incident, but it's starting to look like this game is the real thing.

For those who have played it, is Killzone Liberation's story important or is it more of a sidestory?



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*contemplates if starting up the thread where reask said this might be the Haze is a good idea*



 

Xen said:
gebx said:
darthdevidem01 said:
where is zenfolder? madskillz? starcraft -- the M$ trio

I'll respond for them... (if you guys don't mind)

- Every single PS3 exclusive have been hyped beyond belief. Its like the boy who kept crying wolf.. he was bound to be right one day.

- The PS3 has been on the market for over 2 1/2 years and is only receiving its 3rd AAA exclusive. Its sad and nothing to brag about

- Killzone 2 has been in production for so long that there's no way it will ever be a profitable game, $40-$60 million budget?

- Xbox fanboys here on the website and reviewers from the Xbox Magazine have commented on Killzone 2 being a great game.

- (my favorite response) pheww... FPS? That's so Xbox 1.0 .... :p

 

And I would like to finish this with saying Killzone 2 would be one of two games I would purchase if had a PS3

 Edited: rephrased last sentence

I'll give you credit for recognizing it as a great game.

But... the 360 is out for more than 3 years and also has 3 exclusive AAA's. GoW 2, Halo 3, Forza 2.

 

 

 I don't want to derail this any further so this will be my last reply here

Gears
Gears 2
Halo 3
Braid
Mass Effect
Ghost Recon
Geo Wars 2
Forza 2
Left 4 Dead

Not to mention the extra year of exclusivity of Bioshock, the GTA IV expansion, and Fallout 3 DLC... The 360 has seen its fair share of AAA material (PC games and XBLA games included!!)

 

Enjoy Killzone 2!

Oh and buy it!!!! Seriously!!  or will be the first to create threads about the poor sales of another PS3 exclusive...

 

 

 

 



Proud Member of GAIBoWS (Gamers Against Irrational Bans of Weezy & Squilliam)

                   

exindguy said:
Gh0st4lifE said:

People shouldn't trust scores plublished under an embargo. Instead they should take a look at the reviews and read between the lines. Despite giving a 9/10 Eurogamer doesn't seem very hyped about the game.

Read these excerps :

GRAPHICS

"The internet will no doubt rage for weeks as to whether Killzone 2 is the best-looking console game evah, but it's fair to say that if there's a list, it's going to be near the top."

GAMEPLAY

"It swiftly becomes apparent that Killzone 2 isn't going to be pushing beyond the boundaries of its genre."

SCENARIO

"All could have been drawn from any shooter of the last five years, and it's only the mixture of convincing animation and above-average voice acting that brings them [the caracters] to life. The script certainly doesn't help much, since most of it seems to consist of people barking "F*** dis shit!" and "Go! Go!" over and over."

"The revival system also makes a mockery of a later plot development, which I won't spoil. Suffice to say that anyone who wondered why Cloud didn't just use a Phoenix Down on Aeris will face a similar clash between the needs of the story and the mechanics of the gameplay."

MULTIPLAYER

It's really only once you've unlocked these options that the multiplayer comes to life, feeling narrow in scope at first but offering enviable depth in the long term.

CONCLUSION

Taken as a whole, Killzone 2 doesn't initially seem to offer enough to justify the superlatives that have been dutifully set aside by the PS3 faithful. Despite the often-stunning graphics, it's often derivative of other titles and doesn't - on the surface - seem to have much that distinguishes it from the herd.

It's deceptive though. This is a methodical shooter that makes few concessions to those not already interested in its single-minded approach to cover-based military action. I've compared it to Rainbow Six in the past, but it also calls to mind F.E.A.R, another tough tactical effort that was often misunderstood by those expecting a frag-happy spook hunt. Killzone 2 is a taut and muscular game, a shooter that gives back more than you put in, provided you have the intestinal fortitude. It may take its time revealing its true depths and pleasures, but the journey is well worth taking. Between Killzone 2's unforgiving grit and Resistance 2's alien-bursting excess, the PS3 finally has both ends of the shooter spectrum covered in grand style.

Actually, it reads like most of their reviews: measured, well-reasoned, honest about the reviewer's biases and forthcoming about his point of view.

It seems to me that you want it to be a spittle-flecked, foaming-at-the-mouth, 'it's the greatest thing ever'-type review before being willing to concede that the score is justified by the accompanying text when, in actuality, explicit levelheadedness and sober appraisal is their hallmark and is why a large number of people put a great deal of stock in their reviews (and I don't say this as a deranged Sony fanboy--I won't be buying the game--but as a fan of Eurogamer's brand of careful critique).

 

Exactly, it reads like most of their reviews but not like those who got 9/10. You should check for yourself. Reading Gears2s' makes it pretty obvious.

I guess you're not a fan of Eurogamer's review afterall, huh.

 



God i hate fanboys, almost as much as they hate facts

 

“If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people together to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea” Antoine de St-Exupery

  +2Q  -2N  (to be read in french)

gebx said:
Xen said:
gebx said:
darthdevidem01 said:
where is zenfolder? madskillz? starcraft -- the M$ trio

I'll respond for them... (if you guys don't mind)

- Every single PS3 exclusive have been hyped beyond belief. Its like the boy who kept crying wolf.. he was bound to be right one day.

- The PS3 has been on the market for over 2 1/2 years and is only receiving its 3rd AAA exclusive. Its sad and nothing to brag about

- Killzone 2 has been in production for so long that there's no way it will ever be a profitable game, $40-$60 million budget?

- Xbox fanboys here on the website and reviewers from the Xbox Magazine have commented on Killzone 2 being a great game.

- (my favorite response) pheww... FPS? That's so Xbox 1.0 .... :p

 

And I would like to finish this with saying Killzone 2 would be one of two games I would purchase if had a PS3

 Edited: rephrased last sentence

I'll give you credit for recognizing it as a great game.

But... the 360 is out for more than 3 years and also has 3 exclusive AAA's. GoW 2, Halo 3, Forza 2.

 

 

 I don't want to derail this any further so this will be my last reply here

Gears
Gears 2
Halo 3
Braid
Mass Effect
Ghost Recon
Geo Wars 2
Forza 2
Left 4 Dead

Not to mention the extra year of exclusivity of Bioshock, the GTA IV expansion, and Fallout 3 DLC... The 360 has seen its fair share of AAA material (PC games and XBLA games included!!)

 

Enjoy Killzone 2!

Oh and buy it!!!! Seriously!!  or will be the first to create threads about the poor sales of another PS3 exclusive...

 

 

 

 

If you pull PC and XBLA games I might as well pull the PS3 games that are missing 1-3 points form AAA.

 



One of the interesting things about the Eurogamer review is the complete absence of hype in it. It really feels like the writer was trying to get away from the maelstrom surrounding the game. Pretty impressive how evenly considered every aspect of the review is. The only downside of that is that the graphics didn't factor very much into the review of a game which is clearly innovative mainly in terms of its graphics/physics, if game footage is to be believed.