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http://wesleytech.com/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-replication-costs-revealed/111/

 This article came out several months ago, but I think it is very relevant.  People who think that HD-DVD is cheaper to produce are not exactly correct.  Blu-Ray actually has a cheaper per GB cost.  Here are some of the tables from the article.  These are costs taken from an actual company.



 

 

 

 



HD-DVD is not significantly cheaper, so it is not a financial reason (well beyond receiving $150 million) that Paramount and Dreamworks jumped the Blu-Ray ship.

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I didn't know anyone was claiming HDDVD was cheaper, but I'm not surprised that they would (meaning, I just haven't seen it, but I'm sure it exists). I think this is great math, and very good information, thanks a ton for posting this Akuma.



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Bodhesatva said:
I didn't know anyone was claiming HDDVD was cheaper, but I'm not surprised that they would (meaning, I just haven't seen it, but I'm sure it exists). I think this is great math, and very good information, thanks a ton for posting this Akuma.

 Several people in the Paramount/Dreamworks thread said that this was a factor in their switch.  I figured since this information was very relevant that other people should see it.  Thanks for the compliment, I also liked the article quite a bit.  It definitely stuck in my memory, so luckily it didn't take long to retrieve it.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

Very good information.
Thanks a lot.



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Cost per GB is irrelevant because it is pretty much industry standard to release a movie or game on a single disc or multiples.   Discs cannot be sold as fractions.  As well, producers don't save any money for not using the whole disc. So until BR becomes a cost effective and popular form of storage for the masses, a cost per GB analysis is irrelevant.

Since it costs the same to release a half full disc as a full one, it would be much more relevant to compare the cost to produce the most popular of each disc size, a 25GB BR to a 30GB HD-DVD. It is cheaper to produce a single HD-DVD (30GB)and it is also cheaper per GB. Since development costs are likely over $10 per disc, the costs of production are very unlikely to sway a studio one way or another.



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Well...uh...most HD DVD movies use dual layer then, right? Because single layer HDDVD is cheaper...



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akuma587 said:

Several people in the Paramount/Dreamworks thread said that this was a factor in their switch.

No, not several people. Viacom, Paramount and Dreamworks themselves stated this was the most important factor in their switch. But I'm sure they cannot be trusted in their reports to investors over random internet posters.

Also, we're talking movies, not storage. Price per GiB means squat, when publishers are more than happy to include 2 single layer discs in a package just to increase its perceived value.



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Nice post akuma, it shows that there is no reason why anyone would pick HD-DVD over Blu-ray unless they were paid to.



looks like variable costs to me. how are the fixed costs looking?



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Guys - for a small manufacturing run, a 30c saving per disk is HEAPS! Almost 20%...

And HD-DVD players are much cheaper - not so much the discs. Makes it easier for consumers to upgrade as part of an impulse purchase.

The other factor that I thought was significant... HD-DVD owners have a higher attach rate (buy more movies per owner). This is probably only due to PS3 sales though - a lot of people buy a PS3 and never use the BluRay player.



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