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Max King of the Wild said:
I stopped reading when I read Sony exclusives arent considered because SAony also wants to make money from the 140million other users

So you stopped reading there, but what I really want to know is when you stopped thinking.

 



Tease.

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jesus kung fu magic said:

@Ninja

No, the J man is trying to show you that your completely contradicting yourself.

 

*sigh*...



I think PC and Ps2 is a completely different situation. The only ones supporting Ps2 now are Sony 1st party studios. PC will never not be a viable platform while the Ps2 is dying and gaes that are on that system now is being outsold by its younger brother. (Gundam and PES come to mind)



JaggedSac said:

Cut out the wall of quotes guys, geeze.

Interesting thread here. Lots of weird disputes though. Such as removing games before the PS3 release. So these games no longer available for the 360 after the PS3 releases? People can still play them. And people can only play them on 360.

 

I think the issue is more relevant if people are still buying the games, as opposed to still playing them.

People, and I mean lots of people, are still playing lots of PS1 games on their PS3.  Should Onyx throw them into the list as well?  Or do they not matter any longer?  Perhaps, since the PS2 and XBox 360 overlap, in terms of still being available for sasle, we should write up a list of PS2 exclusives, and compare it to the XBox 360 as well?

The only relevant issue, with regards to exclusives, are the upcoming ones, and those still available at retail.  Those are the ones that are the focus of user choice, when purchasing a new console.  Old exclusives are immaterial, except to those consumers willing to find used games.  Many of the XBox 360's exclusives are so old, and some so rare, that they are near impossible to find... but of course they should be counted as equals amongst the best sellers?

I think its obvious what a pointless thread this is.  Counting exclusives, beyond whats easily available for purchase, is practically  meaningless.



maybe throw in the total or something short and simple for the people who want you to just do the list since the ps3 came out, like a side bar i suppose. just to please them but leave it how it is so far, tis good.



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NJ5 said:

Eliminating 360's early exclusives makes no sense at all. Those are all still available for purchase and being enjoyed by gamers who buy a 360. The basis of this thread is to debunk a myth related to the total quality of each console's exclusive library, which consists of old and new games alike.

 

It was for personal knowledge only. I really don't care for any points people are trying to make on this thread. I never argued otherwise so I won't be getting any "gotchas"

 



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Onyxmeth said:

A very popular thing I hear is that once you take away all the shared games between 360 and PC, you're basically left with zilch. Nada. All the best are shared exclusives. Anything worthwhile to play on the 360 can be bought on the PC. I see a lot of misconception, especially from fans of a certain other console and from people saying PS3/PC is the way to go. So I took it up to see if this were true. Here are the findings, no spin required.

Rules: All games are exclusive to a single platform. No other port, even if on the console maker's own platforms or services will count. That means no PSP, PS2 or PC. The only exceptions made will be games in the arcade can still count towards a console, and games where the difference in experience makes them entirely different games that are connected in name only(i.e DS and Wireless ports).

Rules: All games have to have been released in either PAL or NTSC territories to count. No JPN exclusives or games that haven't been localized yet. No games close to release will count but can be added in once they do release to keep this current.

Rules: Any game that is exclusive but is announced to go to another platform will be highlighted in blue.

To exemplify whether the 360 does have an acceptable amount of "real" exclusives, it will be directly compared to it's nearest rival, the Playstation 3. Here goes. They will be seperated into sections based on their Metacritic rating for those that care about this stuff. After all, this is being done for you.

360 and PS3 Retail Exclusives (Launches-January 31st 2008)

90+ Metacritic

360

Halo 3
Gears of War 2
Forza Motorsport 2

PS3

Little Big Planet
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

Total
360=3
PS3=2

80+ Metacritic

360

Fable II
Project Gotham Racing 3
Dead or Alive 4
Dead Rising
Project Gotham Racing 4
Crackdown
Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise
Saints Row
Perfect Dark Zero
Ninja Gaiden II
Tales of Vesperia
Moto GP 06
Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
Naruto: The Broken Bond

PS3

Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Valkyria Chronicles
Resistance 2
Resistance: Fall of Man
Warhawk
Motorstorm
SingStar
Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds
Motorstorm: Pacific Rift
Gran Turismo 5: Prologue
Buzz! Quiz TV

Total
360=14
PS3=12

70+ Metacritic

360

Kameo: Elements of Power
Blue Dragon
Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts
Naruto: Rise of a Ninja
Lost Odyssey
Culdcept Saga
Scene It! Box Office Smash
Ridge Racer 6
Dance Dance Revolution Universe
Beautiful Katamari
Scene It! Lights, Camera, Action
Amped 3
Chromehounds
Lips
Full Auto
The Outfit

PS3

Heavenly Sword
Ridge Racer 7
SIREN: Blood Curse
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice
SingStar Vol. 2
The Eye of Judgement
Folklore
Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm

Total
360=16
PS3=8

60+ Metacritic

360

Earth Defense Force 2017
Namco Museum: Virtual Arcade
Infinite Undiscovery
Too Human
The Last Remnant
Dance Dance Revolution Universe 2
Dance Dance Revolution Universe 3
Project Sylpheed: Arc of Deception
Rumble Roses XX
Ninety-Nine Nights

PS3

SingStar Vol. 3
SOCOM: Confrontation
Time Crisis 4

Total
360=10
PS3=3

50+ Metacritic

360

WarTech: Senko no Ronde
Spectral Force 3
Tenchu Z
Viva Pinata: Party Animals
Guilty Gear 2: Overture
Deadliest Catch: Alaskan Storm
Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom
You're In the Movies
Bullet Witch
Dead or Alive Xtreme 2
Tetris Evolution

PS3

Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
Genji: Days of the Blade
Haze
Lair

Total
360=11
PS3=4

49 and Below Metacritic(Shovelware)

360

Over G Fighters
Fuzion Frenzy 2
Operation Darkness
Zoids Assault
America's Army: True Soldiers
Kengo: Legend of the 9
Destroy All Humans: Path of the Furon
Bomberman: Act Zero

PS3

Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire

Total
360=8
PS3=1

Results:

360=59 Exclusives
PS3=30 Exclusives

Coming Soon:

  • Breakdown of exclusives by year
  • XBLA vs. PSN exclusives
  • Exclusive percentage of total library
  • Suggest something. If it's worthwhile I'll try to add it!

 

Halo 3 and Gears 2 and Fable II are most certainly headed for PC like the prequels, probably within a year or so. SIREN and Hot Shots Golf will probably also make a crossover in time (I realize that none of this matters right now, just pointing out that these games probably won't remain exclusive to one platform).

Why do you make these threads anyway? You've been particularly aggressive on these subjects lately. Its not like anyone is going to get a clue from any of it anyway.



Pristine20 said:
NJ5 said:

Eliminating 360's early exclusives makes no sense at all. Those are all still available for purchase and being enjoyed by gamers who buy a 360. The basis of this thread is to debunk a myth related to the total quality of each console's exclusive library, which consists of old and new games alike.

 

It was for personal knowledge only. I really don't care for any points people are trying to make on this thread. I never argued otherwise so I won't be getting any "gotchas"

 

Yeah I wasn't really referring to you. The question you posed is still interesting.

 



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Comparing all the 360 releases since the release of the 360 vs the PS3 which was released a year later also paints an unclear picture about the rate at which exclusives are released.



Groucho said:
JaggedSac said:

Cut out the wall of quotes guys, geeze.

Interesting thread here. Lots of weird disputes though. Such as removing games before the PS3 release. So these games no longer available for the 360 after the PS3 releases? People can still play them. And people can only play them on 360.

 

I think the issue is more relevant if people are still buying the games, as opposed to still playing them.

People, and I mean lots of people, are still playing lots of PS1 games on their PS3.  Should Onyx throw them into the list as well?  Or do they not matter any longer?  Perhaps, since the PS2 and XBox 360 overlap, in terms of still being available for sasle, we should write up a list of PS2 exclusives, and compare it to the XBox 360 as well?

The only relevant issue, with regards to exclusives, are the upcoming ones, and those still available at retail.  Those are the ones that are the focus of user choice, when purchasing a new console.  Old exclusives are immaterial, except to those consumers willing to find used games.  Many of the XBox 360's exclusives are so old, and some so rare, that they are near impossible to find... but of course they should be counted as equals amongst the best sellers?

I think its obvious what a pointless thread this is.  Counting exclusives, beyond whats easily available for purchase, is practically  meaningless.

Really?  Old 360 games are hard to find?  Notice that I have recently just played King Kong(Yes I know, it was multiplat, but it still fits here).  Your argument does not stand.