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SnowWhitesDrug on 25 January 2009

^thats silly, thats like saying a person really dies when their kids are borne, what about the ps2? I'm for the life span ends after the console stops production



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novasonic on 25 January 2009
mibuokami said:
novasonic said:
the official end to the consoles lifespan should end on the day its successor is released

So the PS2 is ended? Funny since its still selling millions in both software and hardware. Not bad for a 'dead console'.

 

 

yes. ps2 is done




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frybread on 25 January 2009
SnowWhitesDrug said:
well off the topic of definitions and onto questions :p I think what happened with the short life of the 5th gen was the fact that 3D graphics were increasing really fast at that stage and what was on the consoles was getting outdated. The 6th gen is similar.

I think after the initial 2D phase where game play seemed to rule the roost, 3D took over and said "big and beautiful is better" And so a rush to the 6 generation and then the 7th were made to keep up with technology. this is just what I think though, based on my thoughts now, could be totaly off.

this generation I think the video game industry has hit an all time high and no one specific developer is rushing into the next gen or making threats of bringing out an all powerful console designed to thwart the plans of the competition.

It's almost as if all the developers have a secret agreement not to release a new console any time soon. The wii is going to sell for ever! and so nintendo has no need to rush the market to the next gen. And both sony and ms have built powerhouses designed to carry them for quite a few years where as last gen and the gen before that the consoles didnt quite have that lasting processing power that would keep up with gamers wants and needs.

 

Finally something other than definitions :)

Good call on the weird 5th gen, and I agree.  3D graphics were improving quickly back then - the early to mid 90's is also when PC gaming became very popular, probably because it kept up with rapidly changing graphics technology while consoles were stuck with giant polygons.

I agree this gen will last a long time, but keep in mind the 6th gen isn't dead yet.  I expect Xbox to die this year, but how long will PS2 and Dreamcast keep breathing?

And since Dreamcast will always be owned by the Sega diehard, but the Sony diehard can upgrade to PS3, will Dreamcast keep pushing out new games longer than PS2?  I suspect it will.



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Khuutra on 25 January 2009
frybread said:
Hrm, I don't know. Do you think a re-release counts? I was originally counting new games. Did the MGS PS1 disc include any new content?

It one hundred per cent did not. That iis why I asked.



SnowWhitesDrug on 25 January 2009
frybread said:
SnowWhitesDrug said:
well off the topic of definitions and onto questions :p I think what happened with the short life of the 5th gen was the fact that 3D graphics were increasing really fast at that stage and what was on the consoles was getting outdated. The 6th gen is similar.

I think after the initial 2D phase where game play seemed to rule the roost, 3D took over and said "big and beautiful is better" And so a rush to the 6 generation and then the 7th were made to keep up with technology. this is just what I think though, based on my thoughts now, could be totaly off.

this generation I think the video game industry has hit an all time high and no one specific developer is rushing into the next gen or making threats of bringing out an all powerful console designed to thwart the plans of the competition.

It's almost as if all the developers have a secret agreement not to release a new console any time soon. The wii is going to sell for ever! and so nintendo has no need to rush the market to the next gen. And both sony and ms have built powerhouses designed to carry them for quite a few years where as last gen and the gen before that the consoles didnt quite have that lasting processing power that would keep up with gamers wants and needs.

 

Finally something other than definitions :) hahahah vg chartz needs more on topic responses thas all I can say lol

Good call on the weird 5th gen, and I agree.  3D graphics were improving quickly back then - the early to mid 90's is also when PC gaming became very popular, probably because it kept up with rapidly changing graphics technology while consoles were stuck with giant polygons. ahh yes! pc gaming! completly forgot about that! yeah that would have been a driving force! it validates my thoughts too which is good!

I agree this gen will last a long time, but keep in mind the 6th gen isn't dead yet.  I expect Xbox to die this year, but how long will PS2 and Dreamcast keep breathing?

And since Dreamcast will always be owned by the Sega diehard, but the Sony diehard can upgrade to PS3, will Dreamcast keep pushing out new games longer than PS2?  I suspect it will. lol I had no idea they still made games for xbox and dreamcast, It seams from whats been said here though that the ps2 will have a much longer life then the small dribs and drabs the dream cast gets. I wonder what sort of sales these dream cast games get. The ps2 games will slowly taper off, but if they go the way of the dream cast we could still be seeing new ps2 games (or wii ports lol) well past this generation!  

 

 



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Cueil on 25 January 2009
RolStoppable said:
frybread said:
ph4nt said:
Yeah um Dreamcast went off shelves incredibly fast.

xbox is not still going, sorry.

 Dreamcast's most recent officially licensed game is from 2008, it's still alive according to Wikipedia's lifespan definition.  Same with Xbox, it still gets Madden every year.

This definition just doesn't work well. A new game here and there is not something what most people would call "alive". When we talk about the lifespan of a console we usually mean a healthy number of new releases or sometimes for how many years the system was produced by its manufacturer.

 

 A person on life support is "Alive" so as long as there is official support in software it's still alive.  In Brazil they still manufacture Mega Drives.



 
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Cueil on 25 January 2009
frybread said:
SnowWhitesDrug said:
well off the topic of definitions and onto questions :p I think what happened with the short life of the 5th gen was the fact that 3D graphics were increasing really fast at that stage and what was on the consoles was getting outdated. The 6th gen is similar.

I think after the initial 2D phase where game play seemed to rule the roost, 3D took over and said "big and beautiful is better" And so a rush to the 6 generation and then the 7th were made to keep up with technology. this is just what I think though, based on my thoughts now, could be totaly off.

this generation I think the video game industry has hit an all time high and no one specific developer is rushing into the next gen or making threats of bringing out an all powerful console designed to thwart the plans of the competition.

It's almost as if all the developers have a secret agreement not to release a new console any time soon. The wii is going to sell for ever! and so nintendo has no need to rush the market to the next gen. And both sony and ms have built powerhouses designed to carry them for quite a few years where as last gen and the gen before that the consoles didnt quite have that lasting processing power that would keep up with gamers wants and needs.

 

Finally something other than definitions :)

Good call on the weird 5th gen, and I agree.  3D graphics were improving quickly back then - the early to mid 90's is also when PC gaming became very popular, probably because it kept up with rapidly changing graphics technology while consoles were stuck with giant polygons.

I agree this gen will last a long time, but keep in mind the 6th gen isn't dead yet.  I expect Xbox to die this year, but how long will PS2 and Dreamcast keep breathing?

And since Dreamcast will always be owned by the Sega diehard, but the Sony diehard can upgrade to PS3, will Dreamcast keep pushing out new games longer than PS2?  I suspect it will.

 

 A successor that is worthy will quickly kill off the previous system's support.



 
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RVDondaPC on 25 January 2009

I'd say a console is dead when it's software sales doesn't equal 1% of the total sales in a given week or month. Xbox and Dreamcast may still sale a few games here and there but it's far from a fraction of 1% of total game sold. The PS2 is still way above 1% and very much alive. That would leave the Wii, the 360, the PS3, the PSP, the DS, and the PS2 still alive. If you want you can include PC as a console as well. But either way the PS2 is still very much alive and the dreamcast and XBOX have been very much dead for a long time now.



SnowWhitesDrug on 25 January 2009

@cuei: Hi man, could you elaborate, "A successor that is worthy will quickly kill off the previous system's support." are you talking about the change to this gen, or the change out of this gen? or the change from the quick 5th and 6th gens?



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frybread on 25 January 2009

Yeah, I take it back. Last year PS2 had 50+ games released.  That's incredible.  Dreamcast had 2. PS2 is going to live long, and Dreamcast could die this year.

PS2 has at least 4 years until it sees its final game. To compare, Sega Genesis released 32 games in 1996, it didn't see its last until 2001.  Hell, we might see a new PS2 game released in 2015.



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