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"In fact, even if you doubled the current PS3 sales and Xbox 360 remained flat, they couldn’t close the gap until 2014."

Hmm, I shall put this claim to the test. Just considering that sentence, it implies worldwide. Considering that it comes right after the sentance talking about US lead, he could mean that.

Assuming that last weeks numbers are indicative of the 'HD battle' (Wii numbers are always weird in Jan, but PS360 should be fine)

Worldwide lead = 7.94 million
Worldwide weekly sales gap if you double the PS3 sales = 0.144507 million
Number of weeks for PS3 to get ahead = 55
Year PS3 would overtake the 360 = 2010

Perhaps not worldwide then

assumption, USA = 0.9*Americas
USA lead = 7.533 million
USA sales gap if you double the PS3 sales =0.083655
Number of weeks for PS3 to get ahead = 90
Year PS3 would overtake the 360 = 2010 (week 41)

 

Can anyone see what's wrong? Did I mess up my maths? Was my assumption that 1 weeks sales were valid actually not a fair assumption? is Aaron Greenerg wrong/lying?



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This is what I like to see, someone stepping up to Sony PR and not just taking the smack talk.



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all the while, Nintendo is laying back, sipping their imported wine they bought with the millions of wiis sold. You would think Microsoft and Sony would be more focused on trying to get 1st place lol. Sorta sad seeing how they've given up on reaching Nintendo and leave all the fighting between themselves.



OP is horrible. Full article is here:
http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/200904/2824/Microsoft-responds-to-Sony-s-recent-Xbox-360-criticisms

Microsoft responds to Sony's recent Xbox 360 criticisms
by Stevie Smith - Jan 21 2009, 05:20

While resisting the temptation to (once again) lapse into tongue-in-cheek hyperbole surrounding the ‘handbags at dawn’ exchanges that Microsoft and Sony frequently engage in when it comes to their gaming hardware, we thought you may like to know Microsoft has responded to Sony’s latest bout of corporate posturing.

Specifically, comments made this week by Sony Computer Entertainment boss Kaz Hirai have suggested the Xbox 360 “lacks longevity” while the PlayStation 3 will undoubtedly emerge victorious over its console competition.

Setting aside the fact that Hirai conveniently dismissed the market-leading Nintendo Wii as Sony doesn’t consider it a direct competitor, the focused attack on Microsoft’s hardware has predictably sparked a response from the Redmond-based software titan.

That response came from Microsoft’s Aaron Greenberg, group product manager for the Xbox 360, who said to Torrance Davis at thebitbag.com that Hirai’s comments are indicative of “an old hardware company that’s comfortable with its market position,” and that Sony’s “complacent attitude is out of touch with where the industry and consumer is today.”

Greenberg also took the opportunity to outline that hardware specifications won’t be the only contributing factor in marking this console generation’s winner – the hugely popular but comparatively underpowered Nintendo Wii is clear proof of that. According to Greenberg, the ability to “out-innovate” in terms of online capabilities and software strength will be the main defining factors.

“This is the kind of stuff that’s in our DNA,” said the Xbox 360 executive, “and frankly it moves the console war onto our home court.”

Greenberg ended Microsoft’s response by voicing his confidence regarding the Xbox 360’s ability to outsell the PlayStation 3 across the whole of the current generation. It will do this by giving gamers more innovation while working to build “the best and broadest games library” and evolving entertainment experiences through the console’s “leading online network.”

“I can’t imagine any scenario where the PS3 can catch up with us,” he said. “In fact, even if you doubled the current PS3 sales and Xbox 360 remained flat, they couldn’t close the gap until 2014.”




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Well, there was some assumptions that i made my self (sounds like the hardware company that is happy in its position), so i can't really disagree with that part. But, it looks like if this this continue, we'll be entertained exceptionally well.

@Scottie: I believe he's using the latest NPD as a reference. How would it add up then?



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The downfall of Sony and PS3 is imminent. I was lulz so much over that Hirai statement about XBox lacking longevity and Wii not being competition. Talk about a sore loser. lulz

Aaron speaks the truth MS has the money to buy franchises from Sony and buy timed exclusive third party titles. 360 has price as its weapon - the Elite and Pro models can still be discounted further in the next 3 years and bundles would attract more 360 buyers over PS3 buyers particularly in Americas and the Europeans are now buying more 360's than PS3's.

The gap between 360 and PS3 is more likely going to increase over time. Head to Head 360 has outsold PS3 by 2 million since the PS3 was launched back in November 2006.

The 360 had a 50 week start over PS3 and sold 6 million between November 2005 to November 2006. People forget the 360 was competing against the PS2 which was well established and much cheaper than 360. The same point in time argument used by PS3 fans is a joke. 360 started selling much better when the other competitors: Wii and PS3 entered the market in late 2006.



scottie said:

"In fact, even if you doubled the current PS3 sales and Xbox 360 remained flat, they couldn’t close the gap until 2014."

Hmm, I shall put this claim to the test. Just considering that sentence, it implies worldwide. Considering that it comes right after the sentance talking about US lead, he could mean that.

Assuming that last weeks numbers are indicative of the 'HD battle' (Wii numbers are always weird in Jan, but PS360 should be fine)

Worldwide lead = 7.94 million
Worldwide weekly sales gap if you double the PS3 sales = 0.144507 million
Number of weeks for PS3 to get ahead = 55
Year PS3 would overtake the 360 = 2010

Perhaps not worldwide then

assumption, USA = 0.9*Americas
USA lead = 7.533 million
USA sales gap if you double the PS3 sales =0.083655
Number of weeks for PS3 to get ahead = 90
Year PS3 would overtake the 360 = 2010 (week 41)

 

Can anyone see what's wrong? Did I mess up my maths? Was my assumption that 1 weeks sales were valid actually not a fair assumption? is Aaron Greenerg wrong/lying?

Your numbers seem correct. He might have been going off of official holiday numbers rather than last weeks vgchartz numbers :). Seeing how Sony was having their ass handed to them during this holidays, this would make sense.




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OP is horrible. Full article is here:
http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/200904/2824/Microsoft-responds-to-Sony-s-recent-Xbox-360-criticisms

Microsoft responds to Sony's recent Xbox 360 criticisms
by Stevie Smith - Jan 21 2009, 05:20

While resisting the temptation to (once again) lapse into tongue-in-cheek hyperbole surrounding the ‘handbags at dawn’ exchanges that Microsoft and Sony frequently engage in when it comes to their gaming hardware, we thought you may like to know Microsoft has responded to Sony’s latest bout of corporate posturing.

Specifically, comments made this week by Sony Computer Entertainment boss Kaz Hirai have suggested the Xbox 360 “lacks longevity” while the PlayStation 3 will undoubtedly emerge victorious over its console competition.

Setting aside the fact that Hirai conveniently dismissed the market-leading Nintendo Wii as Sony doesn’t consider it a direct competitor, the focused attack on Microsoft’s hardware has predictably sparked a response from the Redmond-based software titan.

That response came from Microsoft’s Aaron Greenberg, group product manager for the Xbox 360, who said to Torrance Davis at thebitbag.com that Hirai’s comments are indicative of “an old hardware company that’s comfortable with its market position,” and that Sony’s “complacent attitude is out of touch with where the industry and consumer is today.”

Greenberg also took the opportunity to outline that hardware specifications won’t be the only contributing factor in marking this console generation’s winner – the hugely popular but comparatively underpowered Nintendo Wii is clear proof of that. According to Greenberg, the ability to “out-innovate” in terms of online capabilities and software strength will be the main defining factors.

“This is the kind of stuff that’s in our DNA,” said the Xbox 360 executive, “and frankly it moves the console war onto our home court.”

Greenberg ended Microsoft’s response by voicing his confidence regarding the Xbox 360’s ability to outsell the PlayStation 3 across the whole of the current generation. It will do this by giving gamers more innovation while working to build “the best and broadest games library” and evolving entertainment experiences through the console’s “leading online network.”

“I can’t imagine any scenario where the PS3 can catch up with us,” he said. “In fact, even if you doubled the current PS3 sales and Xbox 360 remained flat, they couldn’t close the gap until 2014.”

 

1. Even the Nintendo Wii has a web brower... the 360 is a bit behind the Wii and PS3 in online capabilities.The DNA is incomplete it seems.

2. The old hardware company thing makes no sense since Microsoft has been saying similar crap for years.

3. His math sucks, see few posts above for details, 2010 is all Sony would need and Sony is still likely to pass M$ by 2011.



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Orca_Azure said:
all the while, Nintendo is laying back, sipping their imported wine they bought with the millions of wiis sold. You would think Microsoft and Sony would be more focused on trying to get 1st place lol. Sorta sad seeing how they've given up on reaching Nintendo and leave all the fighting between themselves.

I have the same impression.

 



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