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Rei said:

Eternal Sonata PS3 has not sold 0.6m
WKC has not sold 400-500k in Japan

You cant even prove your point without twisting the info. 

 

0.6=0.06

that was a typo, I was not twisting anything.

WKC has sold more then Metal Gear Solid in it's premiere weeks, which was around 400k+. This is according to Japanese reports across the inter net. At this current point it can only go up, hence 400-500k.



      

      

      

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forevercloud3000 said:
Rei said:

Eternal Sonata PS3 has not sold 0.6m
WKC has not sold 400-500k in Japan

You cant even prove your point without twisting the info. 

 

0.6=0.06

that was a typo, I was not twisting anything.

WKC has sold more then Metal Gear Solid in it's premiere weeks, which was around 400k+. This is according to Japanese reports across the inter net. At this current point it can only go up, hence 400-500k.

Where are these reports? All VGC has is WKC selling about 40% of what MGS4 did week one in Japan and sales were on par with MGS4 on weeks 2 and 3.

 



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Cheat1011 said:
Unless you expect 360 games to have 50% attach rate, they won't be selling 500k in Japan. WKC will not outsell LO, I'm pretty sure of it.

 

LO has sold .11million in a year and some change. Doesnt seem like it will be growing anymore than that. WKC has sold 400k+ within a months time. That is quadruple LO sales. If PS3 and 360 have at least the same amount of JRPG fans in america, then WKC will most assuredly sell at least 1million.



      

      

      

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Onyxmeth said:
forevercloud3000 said:
Rei said:

Eternal Sonata PS3 has not sold 0.6m
WKC has not sold 400-500k in Japan

You cant even prove your point without twisting the info. 

 

0.6=0.06

that was a typo, I was not twisting anything.

WKC has sold more then Metal Gear Solid in it's premiere weeks, which was around 400k+. This is according to Japanese reports across the inter net. At this current point it can only go up, hence 400-500k.

Where are these reports? All VGC has is WKC selling about 40% of what MGS4 did week one in Japan and sales were on par with MGS4 on weeks 2 and 3.

 

the reports are located at the same place where his numbers mean that the ps3 sells jrpgs better even when 360 averages better sales (which include an srpg and an mmo)

 



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You are aware sales for some of the 360 rpgs are incomplete right? Blue dragon for instance is clearly missing some others data. Basically all the rpgs sell .5 in others what they do in america. Yet bd is at like .2 and has no weekly data. Very likely bd is actually a good 100k higher.
Also including operation darkness is stupid. The game was so awful that people thought it was an xbla game. It had zero marketing. It was basically a throw away game.
PSU also only has american data.

So far the best selling jrpgs are LO, BD,LR,IU,VC,WKC
So basically 360,360,360,360,PS3,PS3.
Although with EU data it's likely eternal sonata would be close to VC and eventually WKC should end up at the top or at least just behind LO.

Basically niether system has shown it can really sell JRPGS. The 2 big ones for 360 have been LO and BD which managed around 880k and 700k. Both are brand new ips from a brand new studio, yes they have famous designers behind them but people pay even less attention to designers than they do to studio.
WKC is going to be the PS3's biggest rpg atm and it is from a very very well established studio. In fact right now in Japan Level 5>Square enix. Hell tgs L5s lines were by far the biggest there. I guess WKC and LO are a reasonable comparison. LO is probably going to end up with better marketing, but WKC has a far better known developer.

It doesn't look as though WKC is going to outsell LO by such a huge margin that suddenly making rpgs for the 360 becomes pointless. Basically this gen if you are making an epic rpg it should either be on the wii, or be multiplatform 360/PS3. Unless MS/Sony are willing to pay out a pretty massive chunk of money.



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Onyxmeth said:
forevercloud3000 said:
Rei said:

Eternal Sonata PS3 has not sold 0.6m
WKC has not sold 400-500k in Japan

You cant even prove your point without twisting the info. 

 

0.6=0.06

that was a typo, I was not twisting anything.

WKC has sold more then Metal Gear Solid in it's premiere weeks, which was around 400k+. This is according to Japanese reports across the inter net. At this current point it can only go up, hence 400-500k.

Where are these reports? All VGC has is WKC selling about 40% of what MGS4 did week one in Japan and sales were on par with MGS4 on weeks 2 and 3.

 

 

It was an article from N4G.com that stated that WKC had finally passed MGS4's sales from it's first week. MGS4 sold 400k in its first week. It was not in WKC's first week but it is a goal mark. It is effectively PS3's 3rd best selling game on the system in Japan.



      

      

      

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You realise that ToV(360), Disgaea (PS3) and ET (PS3) Does not have Pal release right? The table has big holes in it.




This is a very tired and worn debate, but for the authors consideration a few critical points. Must be presented so that they understand where the critical errors in thinking are.

1. Enchanted Arms should not be used as an example using this sites data. That data is both poor, and grossly incomplete. Your argument is only as good as your data. There was a time when this could not be avoided, but the PS3 now has three or four titles in the genre to use.

2. Do not assume that the genre is favored by PS3 owners. Remember the console had virtually no representation of this genre for twenty months. So it is a real question as to whether the console has any real fan base let alone a dedicated one. Do not underestimate how those twenty months shaped the PS3s user base.

3. Use the market leader as a standard to measure by. Compare the performance of the 360 against the Wii. The 360 is performing admirably. Lost Odyssey tops Dragon Quest. Last Remnant, Blue Dragon, and Infinite Undiscovery top Symphonia. The qualification for success in this market is obviously not a million plus in sales. Not all genres are packed with multimillion sellers.

4. The 360 is a known verifiable format in the West. Just look at the break down. The console often sells two hundred, three hundred, or even five hundred thousand copies of a game in this genre in the West. The only game of note to do so according to sites charts is Vakyria Chronicles. Simply put Microsoft can export this genre this generation it isn't entirely clear that Sony can even do that. Especially considering how much less popular the hardware is especially in North America which is the friendliest export market.



forevercloud3000 said:
Onyxmeth said:
forevercloud3000 said:
Rei said:

Eternal Sonata PS3 has not sold 0.6m
WKC has not sold 400-500k in Japan

You cant even prove your point without twisting the info. 

 

0.6=0.06

that was a typo, I was not twisting anything.

WKC has sold more then Metal Gear Solid in it's premiere weeks, which was around 400k+. This is according to Japanese reports across the inter net. At this current point it can only go up, hence 400-500k.

Where are these reports? All VGC has is WKC selling about 40% of what MGS4 did week one in Japan and sales were on par with MGS4 on weeks 2 and 3.

 

 

It was an article from N4G.com that stated that WKC had finally passed MGS4's sales from it's first week. MGS4 sold 400k in its first week. It was not in WKC's first week but it is a goal mark. It is effectively PS3's 3rd best selling game on the system in Japan.

It's your story bud so prove it. Where's my link? My evidence is sitting at this website and this website says WKC isn't even close to getting to MGS4's opening week.

 



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