Last time I checked 99,9999999% of PCs don't even have a Blu-Ray drive.

No the distinction your making isn't a relevant one , when I talk about the transition from multi disk to single disk i'm not reffering to the 50 GB's of space that give you X% performance advantage over DVD i'm talking about the added convenience brought about by technological advancement.

And saying "multi disks Blu rays are very popular" are you trying to imply that they perform better because they are multi disk ? give up...

Why are you mentioning movies i'm baffled....we all know the many HD TV Series's have much bigger space requirments than a single blu-ray , a game this generation will probably never need to exceed the limitations of a Blu-Ray disc unless the game producer is overly ambitous like Kojima  . It's funny how XBOX 360 supporters will cry about how games don't need more than 7gbs when the blu-rays technical abilities are boasted about , now that I talk about the ease of use and convenience of the blu-ray your saying that it's still not enough for this gens gaming requirments...where does that leave the 360's DVD ?.

Let's get something straight onyx we'll never need more than one 50GB blu-ray disc this gen , that's certain and mostly indisputable .

but we are talking about console and all ps3 come with a blu ray drive and games on only one disc.

That's not true , Blu-ray doesn't have to exceed DVD usage to be considered the "norm" . Maybe it would need to outpace blu-ray to be considered "popular" or the "standard" but the "norm" is something entirely different.

In the UK people playing Cricket is the "norm", football is the most popular sport here.

In the UK watch documentaries is the "norm" , reality TV shows however are far more popular ?

understand now ?

You must have missed my point in it's entirety. I posted the GT2 picture up to show that nobody cares that a game is multidisc. There is no correlation between being mutidisc and losing sales. Blu Rays do fine. DVDs do fine. Games do fine. So why is it laughable(more to radha than to you) that Forza 3 might be on two discs? Also why is it so different today that multidiscs are so unacceptable? Most 360 owners don't have a PS3, so any correlation between the formats won't happen with most consumers.

I also never said Blu Ray isn't enough for gaming. I spoke about Blu Ray movies and compared them to gaming tech to show that it's not the same as music, which has nothing to do with this topic since it's a different scenario. I showed how industries with advancing file sizes and formats like movies and games merely try to keep pace, but they never advance very far. Two disc DVD sets are usually also two disc Blu Ray sets. There are multidisc games for every gen that has had discs because there is always a format or two that cannot handle some of the largest games on one disc. Odds are this will continue next generation too.

I give up...what ever. You win.

Lets extrapolate a little here, to make the point clear. If Forza 3 came on CDs, would that be okay? Is it, in any way, not as cool as coming on just 2 DVDs instead?  Especially, you know, if your console has something of a disc-scratching history?

I don't think there's a large measure of extra goodness to having 1 disc instead of 2. That being said, having 1 disc is nicer, when it comes down to it. The discussion has far exceeded the importance of the issue, for this particular game, however. If Forza was going to come on 5 DVDs, it'd be a different story altogether. But... its just 2. That's okay. Not optimal, but its okay.

I think the discussion is really more about GT physics, as compared to Forza physics, isn't it?

Cool. Thanks man.

@Groucho-The article was shown to prove nothing because the author didn't understand the first thing about drifting, so the conversation wasn't going to go anywhere. Notice not one GT supporter actually vouched for the video or tried a counter argument to those claiming it was bullshit. Most answers came down to a single way of thinking "GT is better because it's GT, no reasoning required".

Post this when:
A.  GT5 is actually released and ANYONE has played it to comment.
B.  When the GT series stops rewarding you for bouncing off walls and other vehicles.  This is the pinnacle lack of realism.

Hmm yes, good points.

Well, if its back to the DVD vs BD argument... you don't "win", sorry. =)  Its a minor issue in this case, but yes, BD, and a lower disc count is better, again particularly when the manufacturer of the multi-disc console has not put foam bumpers on, to prevent impact damage during minor bumps.  I don't see how that's really something that can be denied as basic fact -- however, its not a major issue for most adult 360 owners, who aren't as likely to bump into their entertainment center, etc. while anticipating an irritating disc swap.

You can argue all day long about how 1080p isn't much better than 720p as well -- but in the end, it is for some people, and the reverse is never true -- especially if your 720p TV is somehow cheaply made in such a way that damages it when its trying to scale a 1080p image to fit or somesuch.

Multi-DVDs also increase packaging and manufacturing costs, resulting in less profit -- so the answer to "are games going the way of BD" is a resounding "yup", no matter what you may like to believe.  This same issue is what drives the movie industry, and the retail industry, to push BD so hard (they devote way more shelf space to it than its current marketshare justifies)... An entire SD TV season on one disc instead of 6?  Yup, profit increase, check.  Less shelf space per unit of valuable, high-margin inventory?  Yup, check.  Retail will take that.