Forza 2 Outdone By GT5 Physics

[NinjaKido]

Onyxmeth said:

NinjaKido said:

I don't feel like explaining my point because I feel that what it meant was self evident but since you won't let it rest i'll have to . 9.X million people felt satisfied with playing on two discs 10 years ago because that was the norm then , those same people might not be contempt with switching discs 10 years down the line with advancements in technology which potentialy eliminate the need for disc switching .

"You sound like someone that wasn't even gaming at the time. Multidisk game were a gigantic badge of honor and an effective marketing tool. People back then weren't praising RPGs for how few discs they could cram them into. They were praising them for how many discs long they would end up being. Two discs were better than one disc. Three discs were better than two discs. Four discs were better than three discs. MGS, RE2 and GT 2 all benefitted from being on multiple discs because there was more game in them. Maybe games in the old days just had a better mentality that more game was worth the burden of getting off your ass and switching discs every ten hours or so."

The times of the walkman or the cassette player ? I don't see how people being satisfied with something gives a strong case for us being satisfied with it now . We live in the times of portability and minimalism , we don't carry music albulms in pouches anymore we carry MP3 players , we don't carry essays , coursework and documentation if there isn't a need because we have USB sticks , Hard drives , online servers etc .

We don't enjoy switching discs if we don't have to because we have the luxury of 1 disc , hopefully at one point we won't need any discs but there's a few obstacles before we get there . The transition from many to 1 shows progression , less is more now days and it gives us added convenience.

I don't think i'll debate much more with you onyx , you defend the XBOX 360 like crazy and I don't think the discussion would reach a conclusion of any sort.

 

The difference in your examples with music is that there have been advancements in the tech while the songs have stayed the same size. Songs don't get any larger as the tech gets simpler, so it's nothing but benefit. DVD to Blu Ray movies should show that advancing technology does little to get rid of multidiscs and people don't care. Multi disc Blu Rays are very popular.

As gaming formats advance, the games get larger. No generation since that 10 years past with GT2 has not had multidisc games. Last generation both Dreamcast and Gamecube had many games going over one disc. This generation the 360 has inherited it. Advancing the tech is merely to keep pace so multidiscs don't become too numerous. To say that it was more acceptable 10 years ago, when it never had a stopping point is ridiculous. Forza seems to be singled out here when it's merely just another in a continuing chain.

 

 

No the distinction your making isn't a relevant one , when I talk about the transition from multi disk to single disk i'm not reffering to the 50 GB's of space that give you X% performance advantage over DVD i'm talking about the added convenience brought about by technological advancement.

And saying "multi disks Blu rays are very popular" are you trying to imply that they perform better because they are multi disk ? give up...

Why are you mentioning movies i'm baffled....we all know the many HD TV Series's have much bigger space requirments than a single blu-ray , a game this generation will probably never need to exceed the limitations of a Blu-Ray disc unless the game producer is overly ambitous like Kojima  . It's funny how XBOX 360 supporters will cry about how games don't need more than 7gbs when the blu-rays technical abilities are boasted about , now that I talk about the ease of use and convenience of the blu-ray your saying that it's still not enough for this gens gaming requirments...where does that leave the 360's DVD ?.

Let's get something straight onyx we'll never need more than one 50GB blu-ray disc this gen , that's certain and mostly indisputable .