A203D: That's perfectly fair and possibly correct. The average 360 owner may not buy AW style games or even rpgs but multi plats like RE5, Fallout 3 and now RDR do very well. Fable and ME titles will finish among the best selling rpgs this gen despite exclusivity. Even if 15m 360 owners are mp shooter-only gamers that still leaves 25m. There is more to it than the old 'shooterbox' meme.

M$ should be prepared to help Remedy through a financial crunch if Wake doesn't sell as expected. That's part of maintaining exclusives. The alternative is to buy them, resurrect Games for Windows and dev. some DRM that isn't like pulling teeth.

I stand by my 1m by 2011 guesstimate. Should be an interesting few weeks for RDR as well.

2 words can descirbe this thread...yeah u know what words

because undertracking never happened before....

I actually PM'd jetrii about the Alan Wake vs Killzone 2 trimeframes back when this thread was made and he never got back to me.

It sometimes is interesting to look back at what posters expected before a game launched. I was certainly expecting a much bigger launch and better reviews overall for Alan Wake.

Alan Wake may have been huge but Red Dead was a more attractive buy!!! (after playing both, it's more attractive and far better game).

You seem to be very sensitive about 360 being labeled a "shooterbox", because you bring it up alot.  To be fair, Fallout and Mass Effect have significant shooting aspects, so maybe not the best ones to mention.  Fable fair enough, although I don't know how significant it is in that game really.  MS has no money problems so if they deem Remedy as worthy of more games, Remedy will be fine, rest assured.   

Back then everybody thought Alan Wake will be extremly succesful and Heavy Rain will have bad sales. Now they switched places.

It just shows that hype doesnt equal sales. And that people want more then last gen maybe they should have kept the open world part. That could have been interesting a Silent Hill/GTA mix.

BTW: 9 Million is impossible in 5 years maybe more like 15-20 Million. If we just take the salarys of 30 people. Lets be humble and say 100k a year per person. That makes 3 Million per year just the sallarys. 15 Million in 5 years plus other costs like equipment, building,cleaning personel for five years etc that makes another 2-5 Million.

I am sorry for Remedy. I was suspicious after the guys from MTV made a documentation about Alan wake went to Remedy played that game and wasnt impressed at all.

Its a good game and graphics wise its one of the best X360 game but its nothing special imo.

I posted something like this back in early April http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=3316515 which kinda sums it up.

now thats funny right there another hype thread destroyed

I really dont remember this, i must of had a Selnor moment....meh

AW is still HUGE!!!