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PhalanxCO said:
kanariya said:
I'm a web developer and I wish IE would burn in hell. What a tragedy.

 

I agree.  I hate having to develop for multiple browsers.

Professional web developers don't develop targetting browsers, they develop targetting rendering engines (Trident, Gecko, Webkit, and Presto usually).

IE6 is garbage (to be fair it's almost a decade old so yeah...) but IE7 isn't all that bad and combined with the IE7Pro addon, it's pretty awesome.


Computers should come with a web browser.  If the OS is Microsoft Windows then it logically follows that it should be Microsoft's web browser.  The rest are freely available if the consumer desires them anyway.  Microsoft is providing them the means to go download them too.

Edit:  If IE is giving you problems and you don't use the IE Developer Toolbar, you should try it.



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I really don't see what the problem is anyway. If Firefox or Opera cost £10 and IE was free then OK, but they're all free so it's not like it's taking sales away.



kowenicki said:

already posted

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=57285&page=5

 

strange how its always sony fans that post this kind of stuff...

 

 Maybe it's just that Sony fans are pro-EU...



What's new? EU needs to get a frigging grip...here's a novel thought...use Linux, if you dislike windows so much...this sh!t is getting old, with EU whining ever year. Better yet, form a EU software code writing team to design a linux based OS to challenge M$...just stop the darn whining!



"...You can't kill ideas with a sword, and you can't sink belief structures with a broadside. You defeat them by making them change..."

- From By Schism Rent Asunder

fadetoone said:

Bitmap Frogs said:
(emphasis mine)

Wut.

You live in a weird world. Do you assume only people loyal and with an emotional attachment to a company buy/use its products?

Since when one needs a goddamn "defensing the company" to justify buying/using what one considers a good product.

Geez.

I'm surprised I'm even bothering to respond to someone that spells it as "Wut" and says unintelligible things such as "defensing the company." but I'll make it simple for your mind.

Here's an example conversation:

My friend:  "Microsoft sucks.  Use Firefox and get a Mac."
Me:  "If Microsoft sucks, why are you a big fan of XBox?"
My friend:  "Younger people are in control of the gaming division, it's not the same as their computer division"

So, in simpler terms, since it sounds like you might need that, it would be somewhat like you saying "I'm not a homo" and then having sex with a guy because you say he's "better looking than other guys."

 

You need smarter friends it would appear. But one tends to mingle amongst peers, as they say.

Explorer sucks, that's why you use Firefox. Some do not like Windows, that's why they use Macs. The quality of specific products is one thing and putting a global qualifier on a company as large and massive as Microsoft with different divisions is unwise.

You are arguing for people who dislike the taste of Coke to put a defense on their consumption of Fanta (boh being properties of The Coca-Cola Company). It's preposterous.

By the way, I find amusing how you couldn't be bothered to reword the last paragraph... as it stands, it's so puerile.





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Opera ftw!



Words Of Wisdom said:
PhalanxCO said:
kanariya said:
I'm a web developer and I wish IE would burn in hell. What a tragedy.

 

I agree.  I hate having to develop for multiple browsers.

Professional web developers don't develop targetting browsers, they develop targetting rendering engines (Trident, Gecko, Webkit, and Presto usually).

IE6 is garbage (to be fair it's almost a decade old so yeah...) but IE7 isn't all that bad and combined with the IE7Pro addon, it's pretty awesome.


Computers should come with a web browser.  If the OS is Microsoft Windows then it logically follows that it should be Microsoft's web browser.  The rest are freely available if the consumer desires them anyway.  Microsoft is providing them the means to go download them too.

Edit:  If IE is giving you problems and you don't use the IE Developer Toolbar, you should try it.

 

That's what I meant.  It doesn't change the fact that developing with all the different hacks and tricks is a pain in the butt.



duplicate thread, link above