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neotea on 18 January 2009
outlawauron said:
KylieDog said:
outlawauron said:
No it won't GT PSP would provide a nice boost in EU, but no game can really help it in the West. I wonder if R* will go back to the PSP if Chinatown Wars flops. (Anything less than 2 million would be a massive flop)

 

I'm pretty sure it will only need sell a fraction of 2m to not be a flop.

And I'm sure they didn't need Liberty City Stories to sell 5 million alone on the PSP.

 

No GTA game will lose money, I'm talking amount of profit. What's the point of doing a DS one that sells 1-2 million if you can make one on PSP that sells 3-5 million.

GTA Liberty was a port.  Right now as it stands T2 seems hesitant to create from scratch for the psp as there are to many variable at play concerning the psp and games.  Also a DS gta can be looked in as a way for T2 to familiarize with the game for a possible gta wii thats the only reason i see gta for ds as it seems.

 



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Tremble on 18 January 2009

Gné? GTA liberty wasn't a port ... Well it's an original game for the psp, and then has been ported on PS2. I really hope they'll make another GTA on PSP!



outlawauron on 18 January 2009
neotea said:
outlawauron said:
KylieDog said:
outlawauron said:
No it won't GT PSP would provide a nice boost in EU, but no game can really help it in the West. I wonder if R* will go back to the PSP if Chinatown Wars flops. (Anything less than 2 million would be a massive flop)

 

I'm pretty sure it will only need sell a fraction of 2m to not be a flop.

And I'm sure they didn't need Liberty City Stories to sell 5 million alone on the PSP.

 

No GTA game will lose money, I'm talking amount of profit. What's the point of doing a DS one that sells 1-2 million if you can make one on PSP that sells 3-5 million.

GTA Liberty was a port.  Right now as it stands T2 seems hesitant to create from scratch for the psp as there are to many variable at play concerning the psp and games.  Also a DS gta can be looked in as a way for T2 to familiarize with the game for a possible gta wii thats the only reason i see gta for ds as it seems.

It was ported to the PS2 which is just free money for Take Two. Not really seeing your point as it helps the case of more PSP GTAs.



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nitekrawler1285 on 18 January 2009
neotea said:
outlawauron said:
KylieDog said:
outlawauron said:
No it won't GT PSP would provide a nice boost in EU, but no game can really help it in the West. I wonder if R* will go back to the PSP if Chinatown Wars flops. (Anything less than 2 million would be a massive flop)

 

I'm pretty sure it will only need sell a fraction of 2m to not be a flop.

And I'm sure they didn't need Liberty City Stories to sell 5 million alone on the PSP.

 

No GTA game will lose money, I'm talking amount of profit. What's the point of doing a DS one that sells 1-2 million if you can make one on PSP that sells 3-5 million.

GTA Liberty was a port.  Right now as it stands T2 seems hesitant to create from scratch for the psp as there are to many variable at play concerning the psp and games.  Also a DS gta can be looked in as a way for T2 to familiarize with the game for a possible gta wii thats the only reason i see gta for ds as it seems.

 

Maybe San Andreas is too big or complicated to port.  Maybe the DS version has such low overhead that it's well worth it.

 



neotea on 18 January 2009

Oh ok i was wronge.



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Showertea on 18 January 2009

Umm... No.

Will the PSP beat the DS in the west the same year the DSi releases? No.

The same year China Town Wars, which will sell like crazy (It has a >25% attach rate on the PS3. By the time it comes out, the DS will have an installed base of about 22 million. I expect it to sell ~5 million in the Americas alone, as well as reinvigorate the hardcore market.)

The best thing about this thread is the potential games people are bringing up: They're all first parties. LBP for PSP, GT for PSP, ect. Third parties have mostly moved on, and Sony doesn't have the resources to push a ton of AAA titles for the PSP (because all their first parties studios are busy trying to make AAA titles for the PS3, which needs them more)



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Tremble on 18 January 2009

Sorry but I don't agree showertea. SE is supporting the PSP a lot. Capcom said a few weeks ago that they have plans for games on PSP. koei, EA, activision also support the console. So yeah, most of them are japanese developpers but sony's not alone with its psp.



Aj_habfan on 18 January 2009

Nope, most of the software is from Japan. Dissidia should perform fairly well.

The only way it would come back is if, a GTA, Gran Turismo, LBP, Motorstorm, Call of Duty, SOCOM, Killzone, and God of War game were being released in 2009.



DMeisterJ on 18 January 2009
KylieDog said:
outlawauron said:
KylieDog said:
outlawauron said:
No it won't GT PSP would provide a nice boost in EU, but no game can really help it in the West. I wonder if R* will go back to the PSP if Chinatown Wars flops. (Anything less than 2 million would be a massive flop)

I'm pretty sure it will only need sell a fraction of 2m to not be a flop.

And I'm sure they didn't need Liberty City Stories to sell 5 million alone on the PSP.

No GTA game will lose money, I'm talking amount of profit. What's the point of doing a DS one that sells 1-2 million if you can make one on PSP that sells 3-5 million.

Production costs.  DS looks to be like GTA 1+ 2 style, so probably have no cutscenes, no voice acting and none of a million other things to add cost to GTA games.

But look at how much more R* got out of GTA: LCS than a possible 1-2 million of Chinatown.

The PSP version sold over 5 mil, then they ported the PSP version (so a port of a port), back to the PS2, and sold another 3.5 million.  That's successful milkage of over 8 million copies of the same game.  No way Chinatown will ever bring back the profit that this game had.



DMeisterJ on 18 January 2009
KylieDog said:

I stand by less than 2 million sales not being a 'massive flop'.

Let's break apart anything less than 2 million (say 1.5 million).

With an MSRP of 30 being likely as that is what DS games generally go for, we're talking revenue of only 45 million dollars.  Now production costs, and everything else we don't know, but I can safely say that over the 2-300 million GTA: LCS brought in, profit on PSP/2 would have far outweighted the DS version.

It won't be a flop, but it won't put the amount of cash in the pockets of R* that the PSP ones did.  And remember that Take 2 is not doing well financially.  They can't have a game break even, or just make a small profit.  GTA games are big, and need to be big. 

I'm sure the game won't flop, and make some money, but TT doesn't need "some money" they need "tons of money".