I really do not have a problem with homosexuals. LEsbians are HAWT I am more attracted to a lesbian than a stright person. I have no problem with gay guys either they have some great personalities.
I have no idea why this is an issue let them marry and have their rights! NAO!
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| appolose said: Hey guys, guess who it is? :) I'll give the usual argument that any moral law enforcement is as equally "encroaching" as any other. The ones that stand are just the ones that have the most backers. @Akuma While I agree that a ton of Christian-professing people know next to nothing about their own Christianity, you're probably aware of the NT passages that do explicitly state homosexuality as wrong. Also, while Jesus never mentioned homosexuality, he never said anything about child molestation, either. |
Luckily soon Gay rights will have more backers than religious conservatives that fight against it.
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The_vagabond7 said:
Luckily soon Gay rights will have more backers than religious conservatives that fight against it. |
Maybe, just maybe, NAMBLA will get enough, too, one day.
For those who get the reference, I'm saying it's somewhat hypocritical.
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| appolose said: Hey guys, guess who it is? :) I'll give the usual argument that any moral law enforcement is as equally "encroaching" as any other. The ones that stand are just the ones that have the most backers. @Akuma While I agree that a ton of Christian-professing people know next to nothing about their own Christianity, you're probably aware of the NT passages that do explicitly state homosexuality as wrong. Also, while Jesus never mentioned homosexuality, he never said anything about child molestation, either. |
That may be true, (and it isn't totally clear what Jesus actually said in the New Testament either, some of the statements were more than likely just attributed to him), but child molestation was never addressed in the Old Testament either. Its not like homosexuality had never been discussed before in Judeo-Christian history. It was an issue that people were well aware of and had discussed repeatedly in a religious context. It appears throughout the Old Testament.
That is what makes it more important that Jesus never talked about homosexuality. And not only that, condemning homosexuals would completely contradict a lot of Jesus's other teachings. Your child molestation analogy doesn't really work.
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@appolose
I can't figure out what you're trying to say.. that you believe gay people are pedophiles or that you believe homosexuality is morally equivalent to pedophilia?
This ought to be interesting.
akuma587 said:
That may be true, (and it isn't totally clear what Jesus actually said in the New Testament either, some of the statements were more than likely just attributed to him), but child molestation was never addressed in the Old Testament either. Its not like homosexuality had never been discussed before in Judeo-Christian history. It was an issue that people were well aware of and had discussed repeatedly in a religious context. It appears throughout the Old Testament. That is what makes it more important that Jesus never talked about homosexuality. And not only that, condemning homosexuals would completely contradict a lot of Jesus's other teachings. Your child molestation analogy doesn't really work.
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While it's true the OT (nor the NT) make no explicit mention of paedophilia, I was more going on the idea we'd both agree it's wrong (and Biblically deductible in some way). In any event, things that Jesus did not mention does not make them true, for a Biblical Christian; if it did, we'd have thrown out all the NT books. Furthermore, condemn homosexuality does not contradict Jesus' teachings any more than the condemnation of any other wrong act; He does say not to sin. Jesus condemns sin, homosexuality is a sin, therefore, Jesus condemns homosexuality.
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| damkira said: @appolose I can't figure out what you're trying to say.. that you believe gay people are pedophiles or that you believe homosexuality is morally equivalent to pedophilia? This ought to be interesting.
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What I was saying was today's supporters of homosexuality will be tomorrows backers of paedophilia: that is, the same line of reasoning can apply to both positions.
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| appolose said:
What I was saying was today's supporters of homosexuality will be tomorrows backers of paedophilia: that is, the same line of reasoning can apply to both positions. |
No, it can't. Homosexuality is consentual (as much as heterosexuality is consentual).. Legally, a child cannot consent to sexual acts and even if they do agree, don't know what they're getting into. Pedophilia is wrong because it hurts people, homosexuality does not.
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damkira said:
No, it can't. Homosexuality is consentual (as much as heterosexuality is consentual).. Legally, a child cannot consent to sexual acts and even if they do agree, don't know what they're getting into. Pedophilia is wrong because it hurts people, homosexuality does not.
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Sorry, I meant my line of reasoning; enough backers is what constitues morality.
My argument is that the standards of morality many hold are seemingly based soley on what the holder prefers.
Okay, now I'm going to sleep.
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