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An empire rules the land, you start as a nobody and get to save a princess (who leads a resistance against the empire) with the help of a ship pilot (who is being chased by bounty hunters) that is accompanied by a non human character. You have a good character gone bad (Basch's brother) that in the end redeems himself and does something good to help destroy the empire and dies afterwards.

The emperor starts as a kind and very diplomatic guy but then revelas himself as a very evil and authoritary ruler.

You have several flying ships fight sequences, there are different races (the moogles are tiny and cute like the little bears from The return of the Jedi), the magicite could resemble the force because it makes people very powerful (if I remember correctly the judges used it and they were as powerful as jedis, not trying to offend Star Wars fans)...

 

There are many other points that I can't remember but I just found the story from FFXII very weak because it wasn't very original...

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Yep.

Hold on.

I'm about to lose it.

Again.



So... This means FFXII is the best FF ever, right? Everybody loves Star Wars if I recall correctly.



Random game thought :
Why is Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 getting so much hate? We finally get a real game and they're not even satisfied... I'm starting to hate the gaming community so f****** much...

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the problem is that while we get new games every year...often we dont get new story ideas

such as

hey lets have a lone solider get some type of super power then have to save teh world form another group of soldiers that some how got super powers as well but not as strong as this guy

or

lets have some Poor smuck fall into a plot to destroy the world and despite never having had any type of training for the job is some how able to master some great weapon and grow strong enough to save the world from destruction



 

Oh I found my old post.

I'll just copy/paste from when I went berserk on twesterm.

You had to do it, didn't you.

You had to compare the game to Star Wars.

No, no. Let me guess. Vaan is Luke, Ashe is Leia, Balthier is Han Solo, Fran is Chewbacca, Gabranth is Darth Vader, Basch is Obi Wan Kenobi, and just for flavor we're going to pretend that Penelo has a role and I can't think of and Larsa is, oh Hell I don't know, Lando Calrissian or something. That about right?

No.

To pretend that every sotry which involves a conflict with an empire is somehow cribbing off of Star Was is both asinine and lazy. Nevermind the fact that Final Fantasy XII doesn't actually largely revolve around the crushing encroachment of one empire but is actually about the expansionist conquests of two of them and hhow that results in conflicts that gets smaller kingdoms caught in the middle, nevermind that Vaan isn't the hero of the story and Ashe isn't relegated to being a girl on someone's arm and Basch is thee primary hero role fulfiller and Balthier has a reason to fight without any crappy love story and Fran's story is primarily one of exile and Penelo is there fo her ability to help Vaan hold onto his humanity and Gabranth isn't even in the same neighborhood as Darth Vader and there is no Evil Emperor, ignore the fact that this game is about the relationship between gods and men, between men and destiny itself! This involves a big empire and some people are waging guerilla warfare, it must be cribbing off of Star Wars!

No. I reject that.

The primary conflicts and resolutions in Final Fantasy XII are linked by two things, thematically: the first is conflict within a family, and the second is the conflict between man and the uncaring arbiters of his destiny. There is no good and evil in this story, there are only people with differing ideologies who see different routes to achieving the same goals (and all of them involve violence). The overarching conflict between House Solidor and the Senate of Archades and the even larger conflict with Rosaria lends context and meaning to the smaller conflict between Archades and Dalmasca, and beneath that the events surrounding Ashe and her rights of ascension. In Final Fantasy XII, as in history throughout thousands of years, royalty dictates the course of events, and the actions of royalty are what determine the fate of civilization. Yes, there's magic! Yes, there are airships! Hey-o, there's a guy in full body armor who is related to the hero! None of those things are taken from Star Wars.

Star Wars isn't cut from the same cloth as FFXII. The former is a story about the hero's journey for power and the ability to fight - the latter is about having that power and trying to decide whether or not to use it.

I could go on, but I think I've yakked at you long enough.



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Gotta agree with Khuutra...

Also the problem isn't that something is like Star Wars. It's that Star Wars uses such a classic set of story elements that in reality you could compare many many RPG games to Star Wars.



A warrior keeps death on the mind from the moment of their first breath to the moment of their last.



Yep FFXII copied Star Wars and its fanboyism say otherwise.



 

 

 

 

 

I am not sure if FF12 is a copy or not of Star Wars..I only could say it is one of the best PS2 game of all the time .



dharh said:

Gotta agree with Khuutra...

Also the problem isn't that something is like Star Wars. It's that Star Wars uses such a classic set of story elements that in reality you could compare many many RPG games to Star Wars.

 

 

Yeah just like Mario is a copy from Star Wars too! You use the power through mushrooms and flowers to save the princess from the emperor Bowser, but then the Princess joins the fight in Super Mario Bros 2! Then In SMB3 there were flying airships on the last set of levels! And who doesn't remember that Donkey Kong was the bad guy at the beginning but ended being a good guy just like Darth Vader! And last but not least you have Super Mario Galaxy! It's in space so it's a copy from Star Wars right?

Sorry I had to do it, I know this post makes fun of my OP but I still stand that FFXII's story is too much like Star Wars'...



You haven't presented a very coherent argument, though. I mean, trying to equate magicite with the Force is reaching a bit.