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Words Of Wisdom on 15 January 2009
naznatips said:
I doubt the genre is dying, but it's the lower-budget efforts which are keeping it alive (Disgaea, Persona, The World Ends With You, etc.). These are generally better games than the high-budget ones anyway.

Do you have dollar figures on the budgets for those games to compare?



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ItsaMii on 15 January 2009
c0rd said:
outlawauron said:
Well, I disagree quite a lot ItsaMii.

First of all, Symphonia isn't very good. Mediocre even.

Abyss is the true evolution of Symphonia, and was a better game in all aspects.

I think you are really blinded by nostalgia, because it was the only big RPG on the Gamecube. (much like Quest 64 on N64)

But of course, it's just my opinion.

Eh, do people care about this? It's not as if he didn't have a PS2 with access to other RPG's (including Abyss). Hell, I didn't have a PS1 so Quest 64 was the only RPG I played in that era, which was awful, by the way. ToS is something else.

There's just no need to devalue his opinion like that. The argument would only hold if he were a Nintendo/GC fanboy (caring which system a game is played on?). Besides, I always thought most people preferred Symphonia over Abyss - shown in both reviews and popularity. These aren't all Nintendo fanboys.


OT: Too bad. I received this game as a gift, though it's with my bro atm. If I can get this $133 360 arcade deal to come through, I'll be playing it in a week or so. It'll be my third Tales - can't wait.

Thanks for answering it for me. I never had a Gamecube, I bought ToS in 2007 for my Wii. I played dozens of RPGs on the PS2, Symphonia was my favorite. I started playing ToA mid 2007, quit because I was bored (stupid game made miss the item book). Restarted a game in early 2008 and never been so disappointed in my life. It is worse than Legendia in story and characters. The game is a techinical mess (load times, awkward animations, awful anime cutscenes, lock ups). The worse of all is the retarded plot. The dialogue is laughable.

Vesperia fixes a lot of those, but it is nothing new. It is shorter than Abyss, the plot is meh, characters are annoying (but torelable), dungeons are linear and you will spend 25-30% of your journey backtracking (no sidequests). For me it is the Tales series showing signs of their age.

 



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WiiBox3 on 15 January 2009
Jo21 said:
cellshaded games won't sell outside japan unless its naruto bleach or .hack.
and even so it won't be a huge seller.

they should port it over for the ps3 its easier for them since they got same cellshading on ultimate ninja storm.

 

What about Zelda, Prince of Persia, and The Simpsons Game.



outlawauron on 15 January 2009
c0rd said:
outlawauron said:
Well, I disagree quite a lot ItsaMii.

First of all, Symphonia isn't very good. Mediocre even.

Abyss is the true evolution of Symphonia, and was a better game in all aspects.

I think you are really blinded by nostalgia, because it was the only big RPG on the Gamecube. (much like Quest 64 on N64)

But of course, it's just my opinion.

Eh, do people care about this? It's not as if he didn't have a PS2 with access to other RPG's (including Abyss). Hell, I didn't have a PS1 so Quest 64 was the only RPG I played in that era, which was awful, by the way. ToS is something else.

There's just no need to devalue his opinion like that. The argument would only hold if he were a Nintendo/GC fanboy (caring which system a game is played on?). Besides, I always thought most people preferred Symphonia over Abyss - shown in both reviews and popularity. These aren't all Nintendo fanboys.


OT: Too bad. I received this game as a gift, though it's with my bro atm. If I can get this $133 360 arcade deal to come through, I'll be playing it in a week or so. It'll be my third Tales - can't wait.

Well then that's quite different. Being that he didn't have a GC, I'm not sure how people like it as much as they do. Although, I thought most thought that Abyss was much better than Symphonia since it improved on it in every way.



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Fernando on 15 January 2009

I better buy the Collectors Edition quickly.

They still have the game in a local game store here in Laredo.



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Fernando on 15 January 2009

Just called the store... they still have it.



naznatips on 15 January 2009
Words Of Wisdom said:
naznatips said:
I doubt the genre is dying, but it's the lower-budget efforts which are keeping it alive (Disgaea, Persona, The World Ends With You, etc.). These are generally better games than the high-budget ones anyway.

Do you have dollar figures on the budgets for those games to compare?

 

No, but I shouldn't think there is any question on the budget of these games being low... anyone who played them could tell you that.



*~Onna76~* on 15 January 2009

Its true, see for yourself:

http://www.fye.com/Tales-of-Vesperia--Xbox-360--Role-Playing_stcVVproductId43163258VVcatId537882VVviewprod.htm



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outlawauron on 15 January 2009
*~Onna76~* said:
Its true, see for yourself:

http://www.fye.com/Tales-of-Vesperia--Xbox-360--Role-Playing_stcVVproductId43163258VVcatId537882VVviewprod.htm

That is depressing.....



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ZenfoldorVGI on 15 January 2009
Esa-Petteri said:
FinalEvangelion said:

I always had the feeling that all the jRPGs on Xbox 360 was a last ditch effort by devs.  It seems to be coming true.

 

Tales of Vesperia is why I have a 360 in my console stash.  Next is Star Ocean 4.  When my choices come down to Casual games and shooters, I'm signing out.

 

Hey, don't forget that there are better rpg:s available. Western ones, you could always play them if jrpg:s disappear.

 

The only western rpg this gen that has even been remotly close to Vesperia is Fallout 3, imo, which is yes, a better game. Mass Effect isn't. Oblivion isn't....no there aren't necessarily better "rpg's" plural, than Vesperia. Persona 3 and 4, Radiant Dawn, Fallout 3, Witcher: Enhanced Edition, and Valkyria are arguably as good, but they aren't all better, in fact, at least a few of those games are worse. You won't find a much funner traditional jrpg game, period, over the past several years. Enjoy this.



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