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Khuutra said:
Dragon Quest X indicates that the wind is changing, and that's probably better for the company.

 

Not really.  Yuji Horii takes his baby (Dragon Quest) in a totally different direction of the companies goals all the time.  If the Playstation would have bombed in the late 90s, he would have put Dragon Quest VII on the GBA as DQIX is going on the DS.  Since he's stated he always puts his games on the most popular platform.

 

But as for what the topic asked.  I do think Square-Enix is taking their company in the wrong direction.  Even if Microsoft is paying the to make RPGs for their system or if they're making RPGs for the other guys for whatever reason (better graphics, familiarity with Sony and Microsoft, just hate Nintendo), in the long run, it's going to hurt them in the one area they need most.  The Final Fantasty brand is saturated more than Madden, Mario and Sonic all jumping a shark at once.  No fan of the series can keep up with it, even the most devoted with the biggest pocket book in the world.  And as such, its enevitable that this suckers bubble is going to burst.  And what's Square doing about it?  Pumping out MORE Sequels, remakes and rehashes of the same Final Fantasy related material from 5-10 years ago.

The only original material coming from Square is Enix, and yet its being considered 'seconary' to anything coming out of the Square side.  And on the DS, anything that's not Final Fantasy is almost being purposefully altered to sell poorly.  Lackluster advertising, altered translations and pathetic localizations.  Even the creator of 'The World Ends With You' made light of this.  Why don't they just paint a sign on their company that says 'Square-Enix and Final Fantasy outside Japan'.  But in a few years, even their Final Fantasy brand will be faultering since they're not paying attention to it.



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Onyxmeth said:
ClaudeLv250 said:
DS is their go to system for RPGs, not 360.

This is exactly what I was going to say. Their secondary seems to be PSP.

 

 

They had a bunch of HD projects already on the pipeline and they got caught off-guard by the Wii's success.

I do believe they won't be announcing any new jrpgs for neither the 360 nor the ps3. Unless SO4 and FF13 become huge success stories.

 





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Square wants to break into the US market as well...to do that, they need to tweak their games and straddle that fine line between wrpg and jrpg. RPGs can sell like crazy on the 360...but it has to be good...



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Cueil said:
No... SquarEnix is trying to reach over seas where the 360 has a very dominate position. SquarEnix would love to post Fable 2 numbers and if they can figure it out they'll bank on the 360, but I think they probably should buy a western dev like Sega did... personally they should have scooped up Bioware... certainly that would have added the necessary western rpg pedigree that they want

And yet JRPGs on the console still sell crappily. Continuing to make exclusive RPGs on the 360 is like putting FPSs on the Wii....it just doesn't seem to work

 



Like others said the DS and to a lesser extent the PSP are getting many many many more games from square enix, these games are also selling more and cheaper to make. So I'm going to say they are doing fine.



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I am not sure how this is Square or MS fault. If they didn't release it for 360 then there would not have release it on PS3.

Infinite Undiscovery was MS funded IP and publish by SE. The Last Remnant was for both system except they could not get PS3 version to properly using Unreal Engine 3 even 360 one ran like turd, can you imagine how bad the PS3 would be?

The next game is Star Ocean 4, which is the first exclusive JRPG on the 360 from Square.

So get the fact and lay off the FUD already.



mysticD said:
I am not sure how this is Square or MS fault. If they didn't release it for 360 then there would not have release it on PS3.

Infinite Undiscovery was MS funded IP and publish by SE. The Last Remnant was for both system except they could not get PS3 version to properly using Unreal Engine 3 even 360 one ran like turd, can you imagine how bad the PS3 would be?

The next game is Star Ocean 4, which is the first exclusive JRPG on the 360 from Square.

So get the fact and lay off the FUD already.

 

 I know right...jrpgs will improve on 360, as Square gets more experience working with th system.  I'm not into jrpgs, since htey are too limited and linear imho, and FAR too structured, but I believe SE realized that with this crop of games, and will improve on them.



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Bitmap Frogs said:
Onyxmeth said:
ClaudeLv250 said:
DS is their go to system for RPGs, not 360.

This is exactly what I was going to say. Their secondary seems to be PSP.

 

 

They had a bunch of HD projects already on the pipeline and they got caught off-guard by the Wii's success.

I do believe they won't be announcing any new jrpgs for neither the 360 nor the ps3. Unless SO4 and FF13 become huge success stories.

 

I still think they will keep the DS as their primary platform. The DS has a natural ability to sell JRPGs, development is cheaper, and there are more potential customers. The Wii will become the primary console however, and will receive the bulk of any new announcements coming from the publisher. FFXIII related games may stay HD because they will have a built in fanbase for them there, but I feel that's about it.

 



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1) Are they gettting cash from MS???

2) Are they making good profit from the portable games?



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Dgc1808 said:
1) Are they gettting cash from MS???

2) Are they making good profit from the portable games?

 

1) They must or they wouldn't be able to make these 360 exclusive multi-million dollar games with huge production staffs that then sell for under a million units.

 

2) That is hard to say.  On one hand it would be considered cheaper to make a game on the DS.  But on the other hand, Square seems to be making some of the most costly DS games with CG, 3D graphics, voice castings and the lot.  And of those games, the ones that seem to cost the most to make (Like Final Fantasy IV DS), its hard to say if they've pushed the amount of units they've set out to do (or to make the investment worthwile).  While other games are lacking advertising and have localization issues in America and therefore the high sales they're seeing in Japan are not equaled in the International market.



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