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outlawauron on 12 January 2009
BTFeather55 said:
Anybody that thinks White Knight Chronicles isn't going to pass 1 million in the west is smoking something funky. If you look at the history of rpgs across both Playstation I and II, a million is probably less than average numbers for jrpgs on Playstation consoles, and the PS3 audience is composed of people that were looking forward to Final Fantasies and Kingdom Hearts unlike the 360's audience which is primarily composed of people that were looking forward to Halo and Gears

Uh, I think you need to use this site realize how wrong you are. RPGs have never ever sold that well.



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irstupid on 12 January 2009
Max King of the Wild said:
outlawauron said:
irstupid said:
yea name some JRPG's that have sold 600,000 in the west that don't have Dragonquest, Final Fantasy, or Tales in the title.

I know Dragonquest aren't huge in the west, or tales games but I couldn't think of any other franchises besides FF games.

Dark Cloud 1, Lost Odyssey, and soon to be The Last Remanant.

 

 kingdom hearts? (I dont know why you are disqualifing tales in this discussion it isnt hat big of a franchise in the west)

mainly was disqualifying them becuse WKC is a new IP.  

You know its like we ain't gonna expect The Conduit to pull Halo 3 numbers.  Now if The Conduit 1 & 2 were big sellers or heck even made, then The Conduit 3 would be expected to pull a million easily.

 

 

 



outlawauron on 12 January 2009
irstupid said:
Max King of the Wild said:
outlawauron said:
irstupid said:
yea name some JRPG's that have sold 600,000 in the west that don't have Dragonquest, Final Fantasy, or Tales in the title.

I know Dragonquest aren't huge in the west, or tales games but I couldn't think of any other franchises besides FF games.

Dark Cloud 1, Lost Odyssey, and soon to be The Last Remanant.

 

 kingdom hearts? (I dont know why you are disqualifing tales in this discussion it isnt hat big of a franchise in the west)

mainly was disqualifying them becuse WKC is a new IP.  

You know its like we ain't gonna expect The Conduit to pull Halo 3 numbers.  Now if The Conduit 1 & 2 were big sellers or heck even made, then The Conduit 3 would be expected to pull a million easily.

I'm not expecting it to do FF (5-9 mil) or DQ (4-6 mil) numbers. I think 1 mil WW isn't unreasonable. We've got four new ips that have 600k in the west.



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neotea on 12 January 2009

I would like to say one of them have a chance, but sadly i dont think either of them have a chance atm.



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Max King of the Wild on 12 January 2009
irstupid said:
Max King of the Wild said:
outlawauron said:
irstupid said:
yea name some JRPG's that have sold 600,000 in the west that don't have Dragonquest, Final Fantasy, or Tales in the title.

I know Dragonquest aren't huge in the west, or tales games but I couldn't think of any other franchises besides FF games.

Dark Cloud 1, Lost Odyssey, and soon to be The Last Remanant.

 

 kingdom hearts? (I dont know why you are disqualifing tales in this discussion it isnt hat big of a franchise in the west)

mainly was disqualifying them becuse WKC is a new IP.  

You know its like we ain't gonna expect The Conduit to pull Halo 3 numbers.  Now if The Conduit 1 & 2 were big sellers or heck even made, then The Conduit 3 would be expected to pull a million easily.

 

 

1 Pokemon Red / Green / Blue Nintendo 13,419 N/A 31.38m 25th Sep 08
2 Pokemon Gold / Silver Nintendo 6,097 N/A 23.11m 26th Oct 08
3 Pokemon Diamond / Pearl Nintendo 50,436 N/A 17.34m 23rd Aug 08
4 Pokemon Ruby / Sapphire Nintendo 5,058 N/A 15.40m 26th Oct 08
5 Pokemon Yellow Version: Special Pikachu Edition Nintendo 4,648 N/A 14.64m 12th Nov 08
6 Pokemon Fire Red / Leaf Green Nintendo 4,126 N/A 10.49m 25th Nov 07

11 Pokemon Crystal Nintendo 2,900 N/A 6.39m 02nd Dec 07
12 Pokemon Emerald Nintendo 3,279 N/A 6.34m 26th Oct 08
13 Kingdom Hearts Square EA 5,678 N/A 5.50m 27th Dec 08

 



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irstupid on 12 January 2009

um where are you going with this?

Are you expecting WKC to be the new Kingdom Hearts sucess story, or the next Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow?



Rei on 12 January 2009
Max King of the Wild said:
Rei said:
WKC will not reach 1 million worldwide I believe, 800k is my prediction. Star Ocean 4, however, I believe will surpass 1 million a few weeks after its release in EU.

 

 you were wrong about the Japanese sales and you'll be wrong here too. BTW you should know what other games this one is like and who they appeal to and how much they sold in the west.

 

 Mhm, sure. Except that I was right with japanese sales.



Kaixes on 12 January 2009

It'll be Star Ocean 4 definitely.



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dsister44 on 12 January 2009

as long as microsoft or square were to advertise so4 in japan or if sony were to advertise wkc in america than they could both easily get a million both of them



Max King of the Wild on 12 January 2009
Rei said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Rei said:
WKC will not reach 1 million worldwide I believe, 800k is my prediction. Star Ocean 4, however, I believe will surpass 1 million a few weeks after its release in EU.

 

 you were wrong about the Japanese sales and you'll be wrong here too. BTW you should know what other games this one is like and who they appeal to and how much they sold in the west.

 

 Mhm, sure. Except that I was right with japanese sales.

You said 300k LT. It met and surpassed that in less than 3 weeks. Even if it droped to 1000 a week here on out (which I doubt) youd still be wrong