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Xen said:
ssj12 said:
libellule said:
scottie said:
Sardauk said:

 

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Fact is, exclusives do sell a system

 

The Wii has all the popular exclusives DISTURBED the gaming world with motion sensing and Wiisport creating a INSANE amount of hype (ala iPOD) appealing to the mainstream market, therefore the Wii sells

The PS3 has few popular exclusives is less mainstream, so it doesn't sell

The 360 has few popular exclusives is less mainstream, so it doesn't sell

fixed.

 

Ya, your fix covered what happened

QFT.

OT, exclusives sell systems only in 3 cases:

-In a spike during the week of its release and the next one

-In a group. Let's say, 6 good exclusives sell a system.

 

 

 

- Overall number of exclusives makes interest people enough to sell a system.



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ssj12 said:
Xen said:
ssj12 said:
libellule said:
scottie said:
Sardauk said:

 

@ underlined Wii Sports Wii Play Wii Fit, Mario Kart, brawl, Galaxy, M&S @ the O G all say hi.

 

Fact is, exclusives do sell a system

 

The Wii has all the popular exclusives DISTURBED the gaming world with motion sensing and Wiisport creating a INSANE amount of hype (ala iPOD) appealing to the mainstream market, therefore the Wii sells

The PS3 has few popular exclusives is less mainstream, so it doesn't sell

The 360 has few popular exclusives is less mainstream, so it doesn't sell

fixed.

 

Ya, your fix covered what happened

QFT.

OT, exclusives sell systems only in 3 cases:

-In a spike during the week of its release and the next one

-In a group. Let's say, 6 good exclusives sell a system.

 

 

 

- Overall number of exclusives makes interest people enough to sell a system.

That's what I meant by in a group. Should've said it the way you did.

 



Sardauk said:

I did read a lot of posting from the PS3 union saying that the 2009 will see the return (...) of the PS3 thanks to price cut and a better exclusivities list.

Now, I agree with the first point but not second one:

PS3 exclusivities have limited success so far. With MGS4 not even able to maitain stronger sales than a GOW2, or a LBP or R2 that are unable to bring momentum and helping justifying the price of the console.

More than that, even on the 360, (and except for HALO3 that will reach 9 millions copies soon), the majority of games that generate good sales figures and get 2008 awards are mostly multiplateform games (COD, GTA...)

IMO, exclusivities aren't system seller anymore, it only help generates good sales on a given plateform and maintain fidelity of the users.

 

Comments.

They are...just not PS3 exclusives.

 



@Sardauk

Exclusivity are system sellers i.e. Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Halo 3, Super Mario Galaxy, MGS4, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Wii Fit, God of War.

It's proven just the PS3 exclusives are not selling the console like it should like how the 360's and Wii's exclusives are doing.



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ExclusiveS can sell a system

not 1 exclusive (actually, yes it can, but you can't force X owners to buy every exclusive since every people have their different taste, it's just that some people here thinks every ps3 owners must buy MGS4. I for one don't like FPS and the likes of MGS4 and GTA, but I like fantasy action games like PoP,GoW, Ninja Gaiden and JRPG of course)




 

Sorry, have you heard of Gran Turismo 5 and Final Fantasy XIII (Japan). Those are the types of games that are already moving some systems and will move loads afterwards. May I also point out that Gears 2 was not a system seller, it was the massive price cut that made the difference.

I would say there are two type of exclusives in terms of moving consoles:

1. The individual system sellers.
This category probably only includes the Mario games, GT, FF, MGS and Halo. These games alone can make somebody buy a console. The sales due to these games will not just happen at launch, but I bet people bought PS3s the holiday before MGS 4 for MGS 4, if it weren't for MGS 4, they would have got the Xbox that holiday

2. The games that add to these
Games like Uncharted are just added reasons to buy the console. Very very few people would just buy the console for the one game, but for the large number of exclusive titles, or just on top of GT or FF or something like that.



xlost7 said:
@Sardauk

Exclusivity are system sellers i.e. Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Halo 3, Super Mario Galaxy, MGS4, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Wii Fit, God of War.

It's proven just the PS3 exclusives are not selling the console like it should like how the 360's and Wii's exclusives are doing.

The Wii is another thing, but that is not my point : To re-summarise, IMO people play succesful (sales figures wise) games that are multiplateform.

So having a (better ?) lineup won't help isnce people are going to get the cheapest plateform to keep playing games like the COD series and GTA-like...

So exclus CAN'T really impact sales volumes...

 



 

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Munkeh111 said:
Sorry, have you heard of Gran Turismo 5 and Final Fantasy XIII (Japan). Those are the types of games that are already moving some systems and will move loads afterwards. May I also point out that Gears 2 was not a system seller, it was the massive price cut that made the difference.

I would say there are two type of exclusives in terms of moving consoles:

1. The individual system sellers.
This category probably only includes the Mario games, GT, FF, MGS and Halo. These games alone can make somebody buy a console. The sales due to these games will not just happen at launch, but I bet people bought PS3s the holiday before MGS 4 for MGS 4, if it weren't for MGS 4, they would have got the Xbox that holiday

2. The games that add to these
Games like Uncharted are just added reasons to buy the console. Very very few people would just buy the console for the one game, but for the large number of exclusive titles, or just on top of GT or FF or something like that.

 

Munkeh111 said: "May I also point out that Gears 2 was not a system seller...."

It might not have been a system seller but word of mouth is what made this game popular because of the previous entry//which then made a increase of hardware sales for the 360. Price cut on the 360 was another factor but don't leave "word of mouth" out of the equation. Clearly that's the main reason the original Gears of War sold well.



Munkeh111 said:
Sorry, have you heard of Gran Turismo 5 and Final Fantasy XIII (Japan). Those are the types of games that are already moving some systems and will move loads afterwards. May I also point out that Gears 2 was not a system seller, it was the massive price cut that made the difference.

I would say there are two type of exclusives in terms of moving consoles:

1. The individual system sellers.
This category probably only includes the Mario games, GT, FF, MGS and Halo. These games alone can make somebody buy a console. The sales due to these games will not just happen at launch, but I bet people bought PS3s the holiday before MGS 4 for MGS 4, if it weren't for MGS 4, they would have got the Xbox that holiday

2. The games that add to these
Games like Uncharted are just added reasons to buy the console. Very very few people would just buy the console for the one game, but for the large number of exclusive titles, or just on top of GT or FF or something like that.

 

This. +2

Stating exclusives dont sell systems is just plain stupid. The right question would be "What" exclusives.