And this, is pretty much the personification of why the PC needs consoles to still be a viable market.

 So, in a hypothetical world where consoles don't exsist and PC is this nishe gaming platform for people who want the best graphics and gameplay, you'd expect publishers to put money into a market of 'survival of the fittest' where one bad game could see them bankrupt and gone?

 To me that sounds like the exact business model any company looking to survive will run a thousand miles from and not look back. Nowadays we see software once reknown for it's success of PC (such as WRPGs?) sell far better on the consoles, they wouldn't exsist if the consoles didn't, not in the state we know them today, anyway.

Also I've no intention of getting into your elitist views on PC being some Godly platform of quality. Aside from the whole ordeal being complete subjective, it wreeks of this desperate PC gamer in denial that what was once the prime of video games is a shrinking nishe in which fewer and fewer care to invest, buy and enjoy games in.

The PC games are definitely not only abobut graphics, if you look the games who don't push it to the end sell better than the ones who do. However please, especially in the RPG area, there hasn't been ANYTHING done since KOTOR' evil/good and Morrowind's massive open-world came out. And I mean absolutely nothing. The RPG genre is stagnating by the month, and if you notice, coincidentally, of course, those games came out right when the shift from PC to console releases happened. It's the exact same thing with shooters, it's either a Quake/Unreal/HL clone or a CS clone, barely anything new has happened, though it's not as bad as the RPG market. The newest addition was sthe cover system, which is retarded in many many ways.

I don't mind consoles being around, but they should stick to what they can do well, and that is the sort of games which use an analog and require more than 3 inputs at a time. That basically discounts the shooter, strategy, RPG, and adventure (the one without the heavy platforming). And the whole "it's a niche market" fails miserably considering how well true GOOD games sell that are on the PC. Don't give me sales of a game that has basically been out for 6 years as proof. Again, look at the few PC numbers we did get, games from near 8 years ago are STILL selling well. How's that niche? The quality of the games on the PC has just declined sharply, and that's the reason why PC games don't sell well. I don't need Halo or Gears or any other shooter on the PC if I already have HL2/UT2004. Same for the RPG and strategy games.

@Khuutra

I wouldn't kill you over that simply because I feel like they are on even footing, however FO2 is better than KOTOR.

 Aside from the majority of your post being the elitist PC being awesome platform garbage most people just forget, I just find you're trying to justify this imaginery impossible market where quality sells and everyone else dies. Something where companies will happily sink millions of $$$ into something that could be the end of them, like the risk's associated with HD cosnole developement but to an even worse extreme. Such a market will never exsist, and if it did, it'd be gone quickly, very very quickly.

 I thought VGcharts was well beyond the days of denying that a viable video games industry needs to have good sales for games which arn't good. Alas you seem to have projected in your head this imaginary model where good games sell and everyone else gets fucked, as a viable market.

 Every post you've made seems to further define everything that is driving the PC video game industry further into the problems associated with it.

Hey, I'm all for ood games selling well and bad ones not, and that does mostly happen on the PC. In fact it's the consoles that get plagued by exactly what you mentioned, good games getting miserable sales (okami, zack and wiki, etc.) while the mediocre game get sky-high sales (cough halo 3 cough).

 Erm, that was all you could reply from my post? Other then the inevitable someone explaining how Zack and WIki far surpassed anything near what you could expect it to sell....

... yeah that's about it. You didn't give much to reply to, just that I guess you concede you're pseudo-reality of a PC market as this amazing market of quality and profitability is just that, a dream, which isn't possible. Wow, I really can't string much more together for this reply.

 Er yeah, hi.

I don't get it.. Baldur's Gate is better than both anyway..

I just didn't find anything to reply to other than your good games not selling point. You also fail to realize great games on the PC don't have to have huge budgets. Look at Portal for example, it wass done by a handful of college students, then VALVe hired them and they put the Source engine on top of their old design. I'm sorry, but somehow I doubt a handful of college students managed to put out the masssive money sink you seem to talk of so much.... Another example, look at WoW, when it realesed its graphics were already subpar based on competitors (EQ2) yet look at where it's at now. I want good games, and you seem to equate good games with high budgets. Sorry if that's your state of mind....

Truth. Baldur's Gate 2 was even better than BG1.

#Khuutra

KOTOR2> KOTOR1? That's epic fail....