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Grooski on 06 January 2009
NJ5 said:
Grooski said:

- YOY numbers look set to be well up in Europe and US. Down in Japan around 20%, but so is the Wii. Shhh MS fans, keep quiet about your increase because where else could it go?

YOY, sales are 28% down for the PS3 in the first week of 2009... Granted this is only one week, but I don't see a reason to expect them to be up, much less "well up" as you said. Am I misinterpreting something here?

In the first half of 2008, the PS3 was riding on its late-2007 huge price cut, GT5P and MGS4. It doesn't look to have anything similar in the beginning of 2009. The end of 2009 is another story, depending on GT5 and possible price cuts.

 

 

I meant 2008 yearly figures not week one 2009 figures. I'm stuck in New Years Eve mode I guess...

Killzone 2 says hello by the way.

 



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johnsobas on 06 January 2009
Grooski said:

I think you're all being a bit harsh in regards to Nov/Dec sales being down YOY. Everyone knows the effect of a pricecut last year was huge and to compare around those numbers and say that the PS3 is struggling this year is a bit off. 800k units sold in any territory in a month is a good effort.

Time for some happy news for Sony fans:

- Sony looks likely to have won the 2nd calendar year on shipped numbers. They only need 4 mill total shipped. Official numbers had a gap of 1.5 mill at end Sept. If MS shipped 5.5 mill this quarter, Sony need 4mill. VGC has them at 3.7 sold. Should be more enough fluff in the channel to keep a half mill lead. Expect Sony to trumpet that in 2 weeks.

- YOY numbers look set to be well up in Europe and US. Down in Japan around 20%, but so is the Wii. Shhh MS fans, keep quiet about your increase because where else could it go?

- Sony has won the VGC HD war in 2 out of 3 territories this year in units sold - Japan and Others, even with data to come

 W/E 05th Jan 2008 to 03rd Jan 2009:

 

Console Wii PS3 X360
Total
26,408,660
10,461,692
11,341,607
America
12,230,473
3,922,378
5,537,230
Japan
2,909,197
1,004,037
326,119
Total Others
11,268,990
5,535,277
5,478,258

 

- Sony look set to have beaten the sales forecasts of 10mill shipped in the fiscal year. If they do around 4mill in Q3, they need around 2.3 mill shipped in Q4 to beat their own targets. Given they shipped 2.3 last year Q4 2007, this looks highly likely to have been exceeded by at least 500k.

who cares about shipped numbers, sold numbers are what sets trends and shows consumer demand.  I'm pretty sure PS3 didn't ship 4 million though, they shipped 20 million compared to 360's 28 million since launch. 

The problem with all your YOY comparisons is that the sales were horrible last year until the price cut, nobody wanted to pay $600.  "shhh keep quiet about your increase where else could it go?" kinda sums it up to me.  It was tracking below the gamecube and around the dreamcast at first.  It is STILL tracking almost the same as the gamecube in NA, and actually tracking noticably below the GC in Japan.

 



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Lolcislaw on 06 January 2009

Classic Sony Spin when they claim everything is fine, they selling amazingly (yet do forget that opposition trounces them in sales), Sony PR does live in the world of their own.



Jordahn on 06 January 2009
Grooski said:

From CNET

SCEA VP Sales Ian Jackson"

"Early internal data points to an increase of more than 130 percent of PS3 hardware sales for the holiday season--since Black Friday--and we're also seeing a growth of nearly 40 percent in total PS3 hardware sales for the calendar year. We remain confident this momentum will continue into the new year"

Hell those numbers are purty, until you see the competitors.

 

 

This just goes to show that the PS3 is selling, and it is in increasing demand.  Regardless of it being in third worldwide, the the PS3 is a quality choice for gamers.  Haters can hate all they want because all they are doing is hurting themselves.  The PS3 is here to stay because it's worth it.  Haters having a problem with this are not gamers because the put the hate first, not gaming.  To make a long story short, I remember trying to give up gaming twice to "move on," but something always brought me back.  I guess that's because I'm a gamer, and I thank God for that.



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NJ5 on 06 January 2009
Grooski said:
NJ5 said:
Grooski said:

- YOY numbers look set to be well up in Europe and US. Down in Japan around 20%, but so is the Wii. Shhh MS fans, keep quiet about your increase because where else could it go?

YOY, sales are 28% down for the PS3 in the first week of 2009... Granted this is only one week, but I don't see a reason to expect them to be up, much less "well up" as you said. Am I misinterpreting something here?

In the first half of 2008, the PS3 was riding on its late-2007 huge price cut, GT5P and MGS4. It doesn't look to have anything similar in the beginning of 2009. The end of 2009 is another story, depending on GT5 and possible price cuts.

 

 

I meant 2008 yearly figures not week one 2009 figures. I'm stuck in New Years Eve mode I guess...

Killzone 2 says hello by the way.

 

If you expect KZ2 to be a big system seller... By the way, MGS4 only boosted hardware sales for two or three weeks. I don't expect KZ2 to have the same or better impact.

 



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Deviation59 on 06 January 2009
SpartanFX said:
oh noeZZZ good news for PS3?expect Nj5 and the 'PS3 hate crew' to spin this within minutes.


On topic:nice,,,I just hope sony cuts the price at least $50 with in the next 3 months.

I would expect a $50 price cut on April 1st (beginning of new fiscal year) and hopefully another $50 price cut leading into the holiday season.

 



Jordahn on 06 January 2009
Lolcislaw said:
Classic Sony Spin when they claim everything is fine, they selling amazingly (yet do forget that opposition trounces them in sales), Sony PR does live in the world of their own.

 

Regardless of being in third, the PS3 is still doing well.  To say they are not doing well when compared to the competiton is spin in of itself.  Because the reality is that the PS3 is doing well, offering quality hardware, quality software, quality versatile function, and increased demand.  That gives consumers another viable quality choice in the market that continues to be an increasing viable quality choice.  That's the world both SONY and everyone else lives in.  :)



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Jordahn on 06 January 2009

"who cares about shipped numbers, sold numbers are what sets trends and shows consumer demand. ..."

If retailers do not think the PS3 will sell, they would not have ordered as many as they have. SONY cannot force retailers to buy what they do not want to sell. And what happens when the next numbers of inceased sales are reported? The previous numbers of shipped units have been sold. Makes sense.



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johnsobas on 06 January 2009
Jordahn said:

"who cares about shipped numbers, sold numbers are what sets trends and shows consumer demand. ..."

If retailers do not think the PS3 will sell, they would not have ordered as many as they have. SONY cannot force retailers to buy what they do not want to sell. And what happens when the next numbers of inceased sales are reported? The previous numbers of shipped units have been sold. Makes sense.

Yea but if people don't buy them then retailers don't order them.  it starts with consumer demand, not with retailers supplying.  They both are meaningful, but sell through numbers is always superior to shipped numbers when judging consumer demand.  If demand suddenly falls the shipped numbers won't show this, we saw that with the PSP last year, and we saw MS stuff the channel before.  Shipped numbers for PS3 are normal though, about the same amount on the shelves as the 360.

 



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Lolcislaw on 06 January 2009
Jordahn said:
Lolcislaw said:
Classic Sony Spin when they claim everything is fine, they selling amazingly (yet do forget that opposition trounces them in sales), Sony PR does live in the world of their own.

 

Regardless of being in third, the PS3 is still doing well.  To say they are not doing well when compared to the competiton is spin in of itself.  Because the reality is that the PS3 is doing well, offering quality hardware, quality software, quality versatile function, and increased demand.  That gives consumers another viable quality choice in the market that continues to be an increasing viable quality choice.  That's the world both SONY and everyone else lives in.  :)

 

Well im not denying that PS3 is a good product that offers good software, because that would be silly, the problem is that They are not doing well (and im not even talking about competition) if they cannot make profit out of their console (and with PS2 sales dying off that is not helping them either)w, Nintendo did make profit in GC generation and Sony constantly looses money on the PS3. And you have to admit that for 2 generation market leader sales are a big dissapointing.