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Khuutra on 06 January 2009
vlad321 said:

We can let the numbers speak for them.

I can't let you do that, Dave. You never know what might happen.

(no numbers fight will ever turn out well with Nintendo in the conversation)



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Squilliam on 06 January 2009

Btw, I demand to know if they counted "Solitaire" and "Minesweeper" in their tally of PC gamers?



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Khuutra on 06 January 2009
Squilliam said:
Btw, I demand to know if they counted "Solitaire" and "Minesweeper" in their tally of PC gamers?

Actually, most likely yes. Also Bejeweled.



Rainbird on 06 January 2009

@ Squil

You should a WW to your '09 prediction (if that is what you mean of course )



Squilliam on 06 January 2009
Khuutra said:
vlad321 said:

We can let the numbers speak for them.

I can't let you do that, Dave. You never know what might happen.

(no numbers fight will ever turn out well with Nintendo in the conversation)

PC gamers have Solitaire! Nintendo is a pale, hardcore, niche player compared to Microsoft and that game.

 



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shio on 06 January 2009
Squilliam said:
Btw, I demand to know if they counted "Solitaire" and "Minesweeper" in their tally of PC gamers?

The number is for online gamers only. At least that's what PCGA: "Online PC Gamers". They probably did get the numbers from DFC Intelligence.

DFC also said that the PC gaming userbase will grow to 350 millions by 2012.

DFC also said PC Gaming Revenue will grow over 80% from 2008 to 2012 (a 5 year span), far higher than what consoles are experiencing.

 



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Squilliam on 06 January 2009
Rainbird said:
@ Squil

You should a WW to your '09 prediction (if that is what you mean of course )

Got it!

@Shio, only 80%? The console market is picked to grow 40% in the next year!

 



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Final-Fan on 06 January 2009

shio, I really do want to know how you have games like Braid and Mirror's Edge in your list of PC EXCLUSIVE games.



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vlad321 on 06 January 2009
Squilliam said:
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MontanaHatchet said:
Save for a few gems, this list is really not that impressive. Sorry PC elitists, no one cares. Besides, I can't believe your list includes games like Mirror's Edge and Saint's Row 2 that console gamers got months ago. I'll try not to choke when I laugh too hard.
Half-Life, Warcraft, Diablo, Starcraft (UT would be on here if you completely erase from your memory that UT3 EVER existed). If a new game that has any of those is released in a given year, it really doesn't matter what the consoles have. You can stack MGS4, LBP, SSBB, MKWii, Gears, any FF, ANY game, and it will still be a Technical K.O. 30 seconds into round 1 in favor of the PC. Since I see Stacrcraft in 2009 and a Diablo game in 2010, the winners are already set for those years. I'm hoping for a Half-Life 3 in 2011, I'm REALLY hoping, but I doubt it.

Well ... hmm ... no.

One single game, even StarCraft, cannot singlehandedly make the PC lineup win against a stellar year for consoles. MKWii, M. Prime 3, Brawl, GTA4, LBP, Gears 2, MGS4, etc. etc. I mean, I love StarCraft as much as anyone. I played it like a normal human being in 1998, and kept doing so until it ATE my LIFE around 2000. Then I escaped from the frying pan into the fire known as Diablo II. Point being, I respect what a juggernaut that game is, but no game is THAT much of a juggernaut. But I'm not saying SCII won't win 2009 for the PC.

 

We can let the numbers speak for them. The latest entries for each of the 4 franchises are still played today (I'm not counting WoW as Warcraft here). Just going on USEast at 7am right now on Diablo II shows that there's still 31k people playing it, and a little over 189k in Battle.net overall. That's also after the 350k CD keys that got banned by Blizzard several months ago. Now don't get me wrong, but how many games from the years these games were released are still played with such geat fervor. In fact I'm sure there's games that came out in 2008 that aren't even getting this much attention. 8 or 10 years from 2009, people will still be playing SC2, and no one will give a shit about MGS or LBP or Gears2 or MKWii or Brawl or GTA4, etc. etc. In 8-10 years after 2010 people will still be playing Diablo 3 in droves and as before, they won't give a shit about any of the games mentioned above. You also have to admit that there are many people(not all) out there who will buy SC2, and won't buy any other game until Diablo 3 comes out (if then).

 

Edit: I'm willing to bet they are still selling pretty damn well too!

The recent survey in the United States about console usage showing that the PS2 was still the most played system and that indicates otherwise.

 

 

Define game system.

System designed primarily for playing games.

 

 

So PCs don't count then....

 

@Rainbird

Believe it or not more than half of the sales of Diablo II and WC3 went to people who didn't even make a Battle.net account. Or such was the statistic 6 months after WC3 came out. Do you realize what that means when it comes to people who back and play through the games' single-player if the numbers I hgave are just the ones who do play online? Also, I have known several people who have a completely tricked out lvl 99 chars in D2, and they STILL play them. So you see, even single-player games can last you years and years. It's also one thing to play through one game and leave it and then come back to it, it's another for a game to be played non-stop for such an amount of time by such a huge amount of people. Sure I go and replay Metroid Prime every 6 or 9 months, but that doesn't make it even so much as the same level as the Blizzard games.

 

WC > SC > Diablo > Half-life >> (sum of all other games combined)



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gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

shio on 06 January 2009
Final-Fan said:
shio, I really do want to know how you have games like Braid and Mirror's Edge in your list of PC EXCLUSIVE games.

2009 Exclusives.

 



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