well, i doubt killzone 2 will sell consoles like mgs4 did. Killzone didn't even reach 1 million on PS2, the best selling console in the world ever.

It's definitely still in with a shot...but lets ascertain the reasons - first party titles, blu-ray and if you were to believe MikeB 'significant superior technology'.

Personally I'm not buying that the PS3 will be commercially available any longer than the 360. Looking at the PS2/Xbox last gen shows that technology is nothing and marketshare is everything. The ROI will be too attractive for third-party developers to pass up the 360 to make use of Blu-ray space/better tech on PS3.

First-Party Titles) Anything you say here is subjective. They probably do have a better first-party library 'metacritically' speaking, but it's predominantly geared towards the hardcore gamers, which isn't the majority marketshare.

Blu-ray) Say the $349 PS3 absolutely smashes the $199 360 sales...what would be logically deduced as the reasoning? Perceived value of including Blu-ray standard would be my guess - so Microsoft can make a new sku with an internal BD included and still offer it cheaper, should this be the case.

Superior Tech) Personally I don't see this being much of a reason for it to sell more looking at previous gen trends e.g. PS2 over Xbox, PS1 over N64 where the gains were much higher comparatively.

I'm not writing it off but thus far I don't believe it to have presented enough reasons currently for it to achieve this or that Microsoft is too well equipped financially to match their move for move.

Yep, and thats why everyone was happy GTA4 got several GOTY's....

only fanboys stress about the best lineups (and use them as facts) and whatever...its all opinion, and its not hard to understand...

Hmm... I always thought only idiots thought that, after hearing him speak in 04 i knew he would at least win the nomination right then to run in 08. I felt the republicans would only offer up a sacrifical lamb... but then maybe i give people way too much credit 

way to great of a change, wait 3 years than lets talk.

 In my opinion, 99% of the critics don't know what they're talking about.

No, not anything can happen. They PS3 can't be $199 next year. The Wii can't fall behind the Xbox 360 or the PS3. There are things we know cannot and will not happen.

I'd put the PS3 passing the Xbox 360 this generation into the list of things that "probably can't happen" as opposed to the "definintely cannot happen" things listed above.

People who predict way out there like to hide behind time. They like to say, "by 2011, X will happen" because we know it won't happen next year, or probably even the year after. And when their prediction falls flat in 3 years, no one will remember it because everyone will already know if it will come true after a year or two and they will have forgotten about it.

Right now, I'd say there is a > 50% chance that the Xbox 360 will expand upon its current gap between itself and the PS3 this generation. And there is a < 50% chance that the PS3 will be closer to the 360 than 8 million units. The idea that it will catch the 360 is almost insane.

Even if the PS3 caught the 360 in its last year, it would still be the loser of the generation.  Whereas Microsoft made huge gains in terms of marketshare, developer share, and finally bringing in some profits, the PS3 did the opposite: it lost market share, it lost developer share, and it lost all of the PS2's profits.  So even if the PS3 eventually passes the 360, all people will remember about this generation is that it was the one where Sony lost its grip on the home console market.

ok, thats your opinion on the matter...why are you disagreeing with me like you can see the future?

in all honestly i'd like to see the 360 take second, I don't even own the ps3. but still i'm not gonna rule anything out until I see what happens this year...

I'm not pretending to see the future. I'm telling you a fact: not /anything/ can happen. There are limits in any system as to what can happen.

You can tell me that it is only my opinion and stick to your guns that "anything can happen", but it can't.  I could give you a thousand examples and you'd probably tell me that they aren't related to what you mean, but my overall point still stands: if you consider the bounds of a system (such as a market for a product and its competitors), you can estimate more reasonably what can and cannot happen.

Ok no problem...stick with your fact, and i'll stick with what I said...