I wonder what the final development cost of the game will be? Will it set the all-time record?

At this point, what could they possibly be working on?  The game HAS to be nearing some sort of completion given how long Prologue has been out...

Well yeah. December 09 was the release date mentioned a while ago right?

I was always confused when people suggested it'd be out mid 09.

well, even it did hit a record, im sure gt5:p is paying the bills.

i guess the ps3 is dead, because this is the reason why ps3 sales are lacklustre. people are waiting for gt5!

oh...

/stupidity

well that's true :(.....as i am one of them, but i think it will hit this year though...too much rumors are surfacing out there about the game

Gran Turismo 5: Forever, starring a cigar smoking, butt kicking protagonist with the name Duke!

I have a feeling SCE will force it out. They know it's their biggest cash cow, and their best system seller. They're hurting financially, and need a game that will sell millions, and will sell consoles without forcing them to drop prices massively. The game has been costing them tens of millions (even with the revenue made from Prologue), and they just need to get it out the door. Notice, it was only after that article where Yamauchi said "it might be 2010, we haven't really talked about it" that the 2009 date started surfacing. SCE probably went to him and said. "WHAT!?! 2010!? 2009 or else!"

Would they really want to upset those guys though?  I mean they are perfectionists, who basically get to use stuff for free because of this.

Forcing it out risks their reputation, pisses them off, and risks the free use of the cars.

If it comes out and isn't much better then other racers you damage your franchise.  It would be unadvisiable to rush these guys.

Being the biggest Sony cashcow (after Home :P) it also means the game has to sell very very very well. Due to that the situation could very well be Sony are holding the game back and not PD. I would think they want the biggest game they have to release on a £200 console, love it or lump it the game will sell millions of software and thousands of consoles at that price.

I think they normally have that attitude.  From what I've heard, Kazunori Yamauchi and Fumito Ueda are the only two developers within Sony that have almost free reign to do what they want.

However, it'll have been five years since GT4 was released in Japan by the end of 2009.  There comes a point where you have to think about the entire division, and look past the wants of a developer or two...

*realizes Polyphony Digital released Tourist Trophy in early 2006*

Nevermind, my entire argument just went out the window.  They've really only been working heavily on GT5 for around three years now.

Whats dicking around?