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Words Of Wisdom said:
Character age and character quality are not necessarily related.

This thread is just full of old people complaining because they want characters to be around their ages now that they've gotten older.

 

@ bolded - True

But the 16 year old saviour of worlds has been done to death over a dozen times.... Developers need to find someone new to save the world

Its the #1 JRPG cliche that needs to die



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They need to test the waters and try their hand at a more open RPG where you create your character and go and do whatever you want like current western ones. It's obvious that most people like that more now. JRPG's are getting stale as a whole.



@Lurker

Are you freaking serious?

Those kind of WRPG have absolute shit for storylines. I seriously hope they don't do that.



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Seraphic_Sixaxis said:
Tyrannical said:
Seraphic_Sixaxis said:
Laughing My Funny Ass OFF.

You do realize the age rate for most of them has increased to 18 to some what EARLY 20's.

There hasnt been a 15 to 16 year old lead character in a JRPG in a long while.

For great example the lead in White Knight is 18 while the princesess is like 20.

And From Star Ocean 4 Mavrick is 21 while the girl is 18.

So...Its not that bad anymore, atleast now there just young adults. :P

 

 Well, since your profile says your 18 I guess you won't get my point. But you will in ten years.

Lol, yeah im 18, but im not age bias, im just saying the leads for upcoming HD console games are in there early 20's or late teens meaning 18 to 19.

Pretty much though you gotta admit its better then a buncha 15 years olds with big keys and big shoes running around killing things. *cough* ....

 

You must not like Kingdom Hearts lol.

I got into JRPGs with the ps1. I'm 21 now and would prefer  young adult protagonists in my JRPGs but I do understand his point about going from weak to strong though. However, I think it could also be applied to young adults if not as dramatic like say Squalls maturing in ffviii

 



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gebx said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Character age and character quality are not necessarily related.

This thread is just full of old people complaining because they want characters to be around their ages now that they've gotten older.

 

@ bolded - True

But the 16 year old saviour of worlds has been done to death over a dozen times.... Developers need to find someone new to save the world

Its the #1 JRPG cliche that needs to die

This is the reason SMT:Nocturne and DDS series were such great games. There was no do-gooder saving the world only individuals protecting their own interests for the sake of survival which contrasts with (90% of JRPGs out there.

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

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Euphoria14 said:
@Lurker

Are you freaking serious?

Those kind of WRPG have absolute shit for storylines. I seriously hope they don't do that.

Planescape: Torment - best story ever

Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer - best story of 2007

Fallout 1/2 - Sublime writing, characters and setting

 

It's funny how all the best RPG stories belong to WRPGs.



Euphoria14 said:
@Lurker

Are you freaking serious?

Those kind of WRPG have absolute shit for storylines. I seriously hope they don't do that.

 

I'm not saying that they should try it with Final Fantasy or anything, but it wouldn't hurt to do it with a new IP.



shio said:
Euphoria14 said:
@Lurker

Are you freaking serious?

Those kind of WRPG have absolute shit for storylines. I seriously hope they don't do that.

Planescape: Torment - best story ever

Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer - best story of 2007

Fallout 1/2 - Sublime writing, characters and setting

 

It's funny how all the best RPG stories belong to WRPGs.

Thats entirely opinion.

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

shio said:
Euphoria14 said:
@Lurker

Are you freaking serious?

Those kind of WRPG have absolute shit for storylines. I seriously hope they don't do that.

Planescape: Torment - best story ever

Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer - best story of 2007

Fallout 1/2 - Sublime writing, characters and setting

 

It's funny how all the best RPG stories belong to WRPGs.

     It is funny how xenophobic that statement is.  Emerald Dragon, Lunar, Earthbound, Chrono Trigger, XenoGears / Saga and several of the FF's all have better stories than Planescape:  Torment.

 

     Also, I hope they don't stop development of all save the word type stories.  I enjoy games and stories that have such epic scopes.  Of course, not every game should be like that but when I play a Final Fantasy I like to think it could be the Final Fantasy.  I enjoy eschatological narratives where it seems like the characters are in do or die situations.

    Of course this line of thought -- saying there should be less end of the world type narratives could be applied to all fantasy fiction which seems to be dominated by these types of stories.  When you go in Barnes and Nobles and look at fantasy fiction it is a large chunk of what you find.  Maybe there is a bit of overkill with it; yet, without the best of these types of stories The Lord of the Rings, The Cthulhu Mythos fantasy fiction would be a much less interesting genre of storytelling.

 



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shio said:
Euphoria14 said:
@Lurker

Are you freaking serious?

Those kind of WRPG have absolute shit for storylines. I seriously hope they don't do that.

Planescape: Torment - best story ever

Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer - best story of 2007

Fallout 1/2 - Sublime writing, characters and setting

 

It's funny how all the best RPG stories belong to WRPGs.


That is entirely opinion Shio and honestly I know enough that you are a PC fan and think your games are greater than the rest but to be honest I don't like Planescape, I do not think it is the best and nobody could make me think otherwise.

For me I would much rather take something like Xenogears or a Parasite Eve.



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