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Forums - Gaming - Whoa, has Square Enix finaly figured out what is wrong with all JRPGS?

Well, you know the only reason I play jrpgs and enjoy anime is  .  .  .  .  Oh well, can someone spot me a silver dollar?  I really want to buy something from this vending machine down on the corner.

 

 



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Seraphic_Sixaxis said:
shio said:
Seraphic_Sixaxis said:
Khuutra said:
Seraphic_Sixaxis said:
@Kuu- dude i mean for the HD consoles lol, not ports or handhelds.

And whats a persona? O.o

....There was gaming before the HD consoles

I'm going to go hide now before the real JRPG fans come in here and kill us all.

 

I know that but i mean for modern times, the ages of the lead characters HAS infact gone up, even if it is only about 3 to 5 years, at the very least you playing as young adults.

Hell isnt characters like Dante Immortal or something?

And Crisis Core's Zack...even though he starts off as a 16 year old by the time the game ends his around 18 to 21 just as another example.

I'm pretty sure nearly all of jRPGs' main characters were atleast 20 in the PS1/N64 generation. It does seem characters of jrpgs ave gotten younger this gen, and it doesn't help the fact that most of them look like 14 yr girls.

 

I wouldnt know, because i got started with my JRPGs around Final Fantasy VII's time area.

Of course cloud was 21 if im not mistaken right? Tifa was 20 if memory serves... and sephiroth was like what? 27?

Anyways, point across now that you put it that way agreed, but i think the 15 and 14ish days are over because that was in last gen.

This gen however the age bias is around 18-21 range.

Find me one game this gen on an HD console with the main character or co-character below 18, because i havent found any. and im still looking.

 

 


Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, & Infinite Undiscovery all feature under 18 protagonists.



badgenome said:
Nanaki said:
For people, who like older cast, try Lost Oddysey. How old is main hero? One thousand years? That´s some experience.

But it´s true, that I like older charakters too. Chars like Jade Curtiss, Auron, and like.

I think Lost Odyssey was very refreshing for not falling into this trap. Not only with old ass Kaim, but also with Jansen. They were able to have him progress and grow without having to start as some whiny teenager. And he's hilarious!

Auron is one of my very favorite Final Fantasy characters. Although I don't know that I can properly give Square any credit for him, since he's just a ripoff of Toshiro Mifune.

Lost Odyssey is one of the most mature and well written jrpgs I've ever played. Even the two kids didn't make it feel like a kiddie game. That is how a mature aged jrpg should be done.

 



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire

As long as we don't end up with Gears of War look alikes, I concur.



Character age and character quality are not necessarily related.

This thread is just full of old people complaining because they want characters to be around their ages now that they've gotten older.



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Words Of Wisdom said:
Character age and character quality are not necessarily related.

This thread is just full of old people complaining because they want characters to be around their ages now that they've gotten older.

 

Words Of Wisdom:  ...You will be too when you get older :P



Khuutra said:

Really I blame FFVIII, that's where it was all shot to Hell.

Ogre Battle 64, though! My main character was like 28 or 30 when I finished that bad boy.

Man Khuutra, you go through that game slowly. I'm always stunned when I reach 21 (although I covet that Marshall's Baton. Hmm.)

As for the rest of the topic, the stereotypical teen protagnonist is a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself. The genre's been getting a bit stale, as there hasn't been enough innovation recently (With a few notable exceptions. I applaud games like Final Fantasy XII for trying to shake things up). Getting stale is an especially big risk for JRPGs, considering that only a few of them have ever had massive sales, and that the genre's primary supporter, Japan, is going through a massive demographics change. We'll just have to wait and see how developers respond to this challenge.



Words Of Wisdom said:
Character age and character quality are not necessarily related.

This thread is just full of old people complaining because they want characters to be around their ages now that they've gotten older.

I've allways liked it when games had older protagonists, even when I was younger 16 year old saves the world seemed silly to me.



I want a wrpg/jrpg where you play Gandalf or someone really old.  lol  That'd be great!



Tyrannical said:

Eventualy we may no longer  find 16 year old orphans and their 15yr old female healer sidekick saving the world. Hopefuly the cutesy useless animal characters will soon follow into oblivion.

 

That has nothing to do with JRPG's. It has everything to do with the genres of Fantasy and Science Fantasy.

 

Look at Tolkien, the very first modern Fantasy. The hobits are the size of a child, lack knowledge of the outside world, and through their journeys in the books, grow. Both physically (Merry and Pippin after they drink the Ent Draught) and Mentally.

 

Some more classic Fantasy books

David Edding's most famous series - (Bel)Garion  starts as an orphan child, gros up to become a King and a husband

Robert Jordan's The Wheel of Time - Main character is about 22 or so

Raymond E Feist - Magician - The series starts with the main character as a 'just coming of age' boy.

 

This pattern you noticed is not just JRPG's