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lanjiaona said:

For two years now analysts have been predicting the imminent demise of the Wii. They have become a bit quiet recently as it chalks up ever more amazing sales success. Yet there are a few reasons why what we are seeing now is the end of the boom.

  • Any bubble bursts just as it reaches its biggest size. And the Wii is now selling in massively unsustainable numbers. It just cannot go on.
  • The penetration of HDTVs has increased massively over the last two years. Thus cruelly exposing the Wii’s last generation graphics to far more people.
  • The Xbox 360 is cheaper.
  • The Xbox 360 is a huge amount better than the Wii. It has far more games and vastly more good games. And it has Live, by far the best online gaming portal. Gradually the public will come round to understanding these realities.
  • The Wii has a very weak game library. The first party games, a few good third party games. Then lots of dross shovel ware. And game consoles are for playing games.
  • Nintendo have now rolled out all their great and famous properties on the Wii. So they have very few places left to go for the stream of AAA titles needed to sustain a platform.
  • The Wii is not making much money for many publishers so they are voting with their feet and allocating their resources to platforms that will make them money.
  • Most of the Wii customer base is the very casual “toy” market. They will be very fickle as they move onto the next “must have” trend. The Wii will become tired.
  • Money is getting a lot tighter as the world tips into recession. Casual frippery, like most Wii purchases, will be an early casualty.
  • Most people likely to buy a Wii already have. In terms of market penetration Nintendo are now going to suffer from the law of diminishing returns.

So there we have it. Plenty of reasons why the Wii must eventually face the inevitable. And because the boom has been so massive the collapse of sales will be equally dramatic. And when will this be? Let’s put it this way, we are experiencing the last big Christmas for the Wii.

 

 

 I bolded the correct stuff!



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toastboy44562 said:
lanjiaona said:

For two years now analysts have been predicting the imminent demise of the Wii. They have become a bit quiet recently as it chalks up ever more amazing sales success. Yet there are a few reasons why what we are seeing now is the end of the boom.

  • Any bubble bursts just as it reaches its biggest size. And the Wii is now selling in massively unsustainable numbers. It just cannot go on.  True, by 2050 it likely will have stopped selling entirely.
  • The penetration of HDTVs has increased massively over the last two years. Thus cruelly exposing the Wii’s last generation graphics to far more people.  True, a few years ago they didn't really exist so any increase would be massive.
  • The Xbox 360 is cheaper. True, the Arcade model is cheaper.
  • The Xbox 360 is a huge amount better than the Wii. It has far more games and vastly more good games. And it has Live, by far the best online gaming portal. Gradually the public will come round to understanding these realities.  True, the grammar on display obviously validates everything said.
  • The Wii has a very weak game library. The first party games, a few good third party games. Then lots of dross shovel ware. And game consoles are for playing games.  True, except for the weak part.   Wii games work out 5 days a week for 6 hours a day.
  • Nintendo have now rolled out all their great and famous properties on the Wii. So they have very few places left to go for the stream of AAA titles needed to sustain a platform.
  • The Wii is not making much money for many publishers so they are voting with their feet and allocating their resources to platforms that will make them money.
  • Most of the Wii customer base is the very casual “toy” market. They will be very fickle as they move onto the next “must have” trend. The Wii will become tired.  True, if by most you mean some and by tired you mean entralled.
  • Money is getting a lot tighter as the world tips into recession. Casual frippery, like most Wii purchases, will be an early casualty.  True, they'll stop buying Wii's for family and friends and concentrate on buying the far chepaer product; the games.
  • Most people likely to buy a Wii already have. In terms of market penetration Nintendo are now going to suffer from the law of diminishing returns.

So there we have it. Plenty of reasons why the Wii must eventually face the inevitable. And because the boom has been so massive the collapse of sales will be equally dramatic. And when will this be? Let’s put it this way, we are experiencing the last big Christmas for the Wii.

 

 

 I bolded the correct stuff!

I blued a retort.

 



The rEVOLution is not being televised

"The Xbox 360 is cheaper."

Yet the Wii still outsells it.

This is the DS all over again. It seems analysis ignore this because "Oh Nintendo always wins handhelds". Now that it's hitting home they are panicking and grasping at straws.



toastboy44562 said:
lanjiaona said:

For two years now analysts have been predicting the imminent demise of the Wii. They have become a bit quiet recently as it chalks up ever more amazing sales success. Yet there are a few reasons why what we are seeing now is the end of the boom.

  • Any bubble bursts just as it reaches its biggest size. And the Wii is now selling in massively unsustainable numbers. It just cannot go on.
  • The penetration of HDTVs has increased massively over the last two years. Thus cruelly exposing the Wii’s last generation graphics to far more people.
  • The Xbox 360 is cheaper.
  • The Xbox 360 is a huge amount better than the Wii. It has far more games and vastly more good games. And it has Live, by far the best online gaming portal. Gradually the public will come round to understanding these realities.
  • The Wii has a very weak game library. The first party games, a few good third party games. Then lots of dross shovel ware. And game consoles are for playing games.
  • Nintendo have now rolled out all their great and famous properties on the Wii. So they have very few places left to go for the stream of AAA titles needed to sustain a platform.
  • The Wii is not making much money for many publishers so they are voting with their feet and allocating their resources to platforms that will make them money.
  • Most of the Wii customer base is the very casual “toy” market. They will be very fickle as they move onto the next “must have” trend. The Wii will become tired.
  • Money is getting a lot tighter as the world tips into recession. Casual frippery, like most Wii purchases, will be an early casualty.
  • Most people likely to buy a Wii already have. In terms of market penetration Nintendo are now going to suffer from the law of diminishing returns.

So there we have it. Plenty of reasons why the Wii must eventually face the inevitable. And because the boom has been so massive the collapse of sales will be equally dramatic. And when will this be? Let’s put it this way, we are experiencing the last big Christmas for the Wii.

 

 

 I bolded the correct stuff!

 

 No you only bolded what you agree with, but so far its wrong



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

The best part of this is that he believes that the fact that the Wii is selling well right now strong evidence that the Wii will collapse and stop selling almost immediately.

That is the greatest logic I've ever seen. "Well, this thing was really popular two Christmases ago. Then it was really, really popular last Christmas. This Christmas, it's been really, really, really popular. Therefore, clearly, this is about to stop selling."

Or, using numbers, if Product X sells 2 Million units one year, then 4 million the next, then 6 million the next, it's clearly about to stop selling.


Can someone make a data line out of that? Just make a simple graph. It doesn't even need to be precise, just a general graph. Show that graph gradually increasing in sales in the "real" part -- where we have real data points -- and then when you get to "projected" portion of the graph, show the system immediately and drastically drop in sales.



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Bodhesatva said:

The best part of this is that he believes that the fact that the Wii is selling well right now strong evidence that the Wii will collapse and stop selling almost immediately.

That is the greatest logic I've ever seen. "Well, this thing was really popular two Christmases ago. Then it was really, really popular last Christmas. This Christmas, it's been really, really, really popular. Therefore, clearly, this is about to stop selling."

Or, using numbers, if Product X sells 2 Million units one year, then 4 million the next, then 6 million the next, it's clearly about to stop selling.


Can someone make a data line out of that? Just make a simple graph. It doesn't even need to be precise, just a general graph. Show that graph gradually increasing in sales in the "real" part -- where we have real data points -- and then when you get to "projected" portion of the graph, show the system immediately and drastically drop in sales.

 

 I think someone did a couple of pages back



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

My 50 year old aunt and uncle own a wii.
This "bubble" is only getting bigger.




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Bodhesatva said:

The best part of this is that he believes that the fact that the Wii is selling well right now strong evidence that the Wii will collapse and stop selling almost immediately.

That is the greatest logic I've ever seen. "Well, this thing was really popular two Christmases ago. Then it was really, really popular last Christmas. This Christmas, it's been really, really, really popular. Therefore, clearly, this is about to stop selling."

Or, using numbers, if Product X sells 2 Million units one year, then 4 million the next, then 6 million the next, it's clearly about to stop selling.


Can someone make a data line out of that? Just make a simple graph. It doesn't even need to be precise, just a general graph. Show that graph gradually increasing in sales in the "real" part -- where we have real data points -- and then when you get to "projected" portion of the graph, show the system immediately and drastically drop in sales.

__XBrawlX__ said:

 



@ XBrawlX You forgot to include negative sales :P



So... are you serious... or is this one of those rolstoppable type sarcasm posts?