you could argue that the wii would not have sold as much as it had if it wasn't bundled with wii sports even at a $200 price point.  The fact that the game is bundled is the reason why many people buy the wii, they know when they buy the wii wii sports will come with it.

You could also easily argue that without wii sports the wii woudnt' be #1 this gen.

its funny that all the wii's carry this game

1) A controller by itself is $10 less than a controller with wiiplay. Therefore, wiiplay is $10 and people are *chosing* to purchase it.

2) You'd be stupid to think Wii Sports isn't factored into the cost. It's a standard business practice. If you want proof, note that the Wii costs the same in Japan (where Wii Sports isn't bundled) as all the previous Nintendo consoles, yet it costs more in the US (addional cost of about the price of a single game) than the previous consoles.

That's mean.

It's like asking a chicken if it's ever tired of having feathers. It doesn't really have a choice.

What can I say? I've been in a really bad mood lately.

Wow some of you guys are talking about acceptance, but no one has to accept anything - in the end it is what it is; regardless of it being accepted.

This isn't a case of "If the tree falls in the forest and no one was around - did it make a sound?" This is just a matter of the tree falling and that's it, it doesn't matter if anyone hears the sound, time has told.

One can say Wii Sports does show what the Wii can do, and a game like Wii Bowling is good enough people will still be playing it years from now.  Not sure this means Wii Sports deserves props, but it should put hardcore fanboys in their place.

I will give props to the Wii Sports games, not for sales numbers, but offering something different.  I will say that Wii Bowling and Wii Boxing did intrigue me personally, and were part motivation for myself to get a Wii.  Bowling does work, but Wii Boxing  does't quite do it.  Well here is hoping Punchout for the Wii does good as a boxing game.

But this game is bundled with the Wii. How is this even a game to begin with. It's only a sample to see what the owner is going to expect out of the Wii.

Why is playing disposable videogames, ones you play and get rid of, more "real" that forming a Wii bowling league, and gathering around Wii Sports every week and bowling?  Or why is forming clans at Halo or Gears or playing Madden more "real"?  Just because it isn' your thing doesn't mean it isn't really.

Sheesh, all these thngs are glorified toys.  If someone gets hours of play enjoyment out of a pack-in game, more power to them.  Again, just because something isn't for you doesn't mean it isn' for everyone.

As far as the Wii goes, it should be viewed as a hardcore gamer's second console, to break out at parties and wih non-gamers.  That is fine.  Again, if it isn't your main thing, so be it.

I bought a Dreamcast and It came with a demo disc with many games that were avalibles for the system (like Sonic Adventures and Tomb Rider) Wii Sports is a SPECIFIC game designed for the Wii, it isn't a demo or a sample it's a full game.