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outlawauron said:
Slimebeast said:
Is 150,000 copies a lot? Not for a decision about wich platform to choose, the PS3 or the X360 (assuming the devs got a few extra bucks from MS for exclusivity).

Because the difference between WKC (PS3) and Last Remnant & Infinite Undiscovery (X360) is the Japanese sales.

WKC won't reach 300K in Japan. IU and LR will end at rufly 150K in Japan.

In the rest of the world a pretty safe assumption is equal sales between PS3 and X360 when it comes to JRPGs.

IU and LR will sell rufly 500,000 copies on the>X360. WKC will sell rufly 650,000 copies thanks to the extra Japanese sales. Not a big difference.

Well then, there is no reason to have not have an JRPG on both PS3 and 360. No advantge in 360 exclusive over a multiplat.

Which is why FF XIII is multi now.

 



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CGI-Quality said:
@ Slimebeast

Why are you putting down the game. So far, any PS3 exclusive you speak about, you put down. Why?

 

 I didn't, did I? I just said my fair predictions on the sales. Why wuld a Famitsu 29/40 game on PS3 sell better in the West than IU & LR on the X360?

But yeah, I admit I kinda avoid commenting on the PS3 exclusives that I do belive will be successful (like God ov War 3). Probably it's the fanboy in me...



Slimebeast said:
CGI-Quality said:
@ Slimebeast

Why are you putting down the game. So far, any PS3 exclusive you speak about, you put down. Why?

 

 I didn't, did I? I just said my fair predictions on the sales. Why wuld a Famitsu 29/40 game on PS3 sell better in the West than IU & LR on the X360.

 

 ...what?

320k first week, 700k-1m Lifetime. 1.5-2m WW.(lifetime)



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Kantor said:
Hopefully this will teach Square Enix that they're a bunch of morons and that they need to stop making 360-exclusive JRPGs.

 

I hope you follow Square Enix news and don't just generalize everything.


SE always said that their goal is to reach the Western market, and they know that in America, gamers are favoring 360 over PS3. 360 is somewhat popular in Europe too. They are trying to pull-a-capcom and make their franchise as successful as possible and to do this, they have to release on the 360. DMC4 proved that was the right decision. PS3 is still a big question mark for game companies. It's not hardcore enough, it's definitely not casual at all, more a blu-ray machine than a game machine for a certain percentage of the PS3 userbase, etc.



And they're not selling in the Western Market

They are morons because they release such crappy games w/c they shouldn't have made.

MS and Sony should just stick w/ Mistwalker and Level5

hear that MS



 

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Aiemond said:
tombi123 said:
BengaBenga said:
Well, around 160k first week is definitely good. The problem is that a lot of PS3 fanboys have claimed for a long time that WKC would be the game that would prove that the JRPG genre still belonged on the Playstation brand.

These sales are solid, but not that much different from regular Wii or 360 JRPGs and therefore disproves claims that the 360 JRPGs or MH/DQ on Wii would be bad for sales.

 

How does 132K first day translate into 160K first week??? It is perfoming better than ToS:DotNW and it could outsell Blue Dragon's lifetime sales (210K) in its first week. WKC has already outsold every 360 JRPG's first week sales, on its first day. Saying WKC isn't performing much different from the 360 JRPG's is a bit of understatement don't you think?

 

This is a big budget, heavily advertised RPG. Comparing sales with a spin off on the wii and saying since its first day sales beat it that this is a success is crazy. This will not beat the takes sales by that much. Then, compare the budgets. To say this is an accomplishment is crazy.

 

 


Ha ha. It's also a new IP. TOS was also heavily advertised. Thing is, most people buy Wiis for Wii Fit, not JRPGs. A fact the Wii crowd try their best to deny.

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reptile168 said:

I hope you follow Square Enix news and don't just generalize everything.


SE always said that their goal is to reach the Western market, and they know that in America, gamers are favoring 360 over PS3. 360 is somewhat popular in Europe too. They are trying to pull-a-capcom and make their franchise as successful as possible and to do this, they have to release on the 360. DMC4 proved that was the right decision. PS3 is still a big question mark for game companies. It's not hardcore enough, it's definitely not casual at all, more a blu-ray machine than a game machine for a certain percentage of the PS3 userbase, etc.

 

This strategy of counting on western sales is a complete and total failure, and DMC4 was part of what proved the total failure. How come some people manage to get the wrong conclusion on this?

The West audience won't support what they're making, it's just not sustainable.

Capcom understood it well enough and came quickly back to what they know best: making eastern games.

Why oh why did japanese devs choose to change two things at once in their strategy? When you want to know what is the problem/solution, you change one parameter at a time, not two. This gen, japanese devs changed at least two at once: change their game to try to mimic western ones, and release on platforms with more western market share. And it's pretty obvious, up to the high production value JRPG that look more like WRPG.

I say (and repeat) that Sony and SE (the Square part mostly) are destroying their franchises right and left, and it will come to bite them in the ass soon enough.

Given that their strategy to cater more to the West clearly failed, WKC clearly shows that the PS3 is the best HD candidate for JRPG. Still, it's not enough to sustain them.

I hope WKC reaches 500k in Japan, so that it has a chance to sustain its development costs by reaching 1M sales worldwide. It will depend on how well the online part is received in Japan, but the chances are low it will work actually. At least it looks more like a JRPG than the other, but it's still not enough.



hanafuda said:
Aiemond said:
tombi123 said:
BengaBenga said:
Well, around 160k first week is definitely good. The problem is that a lot of PS3 fanboys have claimed for a long time that WKC would be the game that would prove that the JRPG genre still belonged on the Playstation brand.

These sales are solid, but not that much different from regular Wii or 360 JRPGs and therefore disproves claims that the 360 JRPGs or MH/DQ on Wii would be bad for sales.

 

How does 132K first day translate into 160K first week??? It is perfoming better than ToS:DotNW and it could outsell Blue Dragon's lifetime sales (210K) in its first week. WKC has already outsold every 360 JRPG's first week sales, on its first day. Saying WKC isn't performing much different from the 360 JRPG's is a bit of understatement don't you think?

 

This is a big budget, heavily advertised RPG. Comparing sales with a spin off on the wii and saying since its first day sales beat it that this is a success is crazy. This will not beat the takes sales by that much. Then, compare the budgets. To say this is an accomplishment is crazy.

 

 


 

Ha ha. It's also a new IP. TOS was also heavily advertised. Thing is, most people buy Wiis for Wii Fit, not JRPGs. A fact the Wii crowd try their best to deny.

Its a spin off. Spinoffs never sell what the original sold. Its not a full tales game. Everyone knows this. NMH has been the best selling suda 51 game, ToS has sold more than ToV, FE sold well, Brawl sold well. The problem is that people try and judge wii sales by shitty ports and crap games and then point out that "omg wii cant sell hardcorz". You can deny the fact that wii is winning, but you will be swept away as it begins to get the RPGs and other japenese games. DQ X is only the beginning.

 



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Aiemond said:
hanafuda said:
Aiemond said:
tombi123 said:
BengaBenga said:
Well, around 160k first week is definitely good. The problem is that a lot of PS3 fanboys have claimed for a long time that WKC would be the game that would prove that the JRPG genre still belonged on the Playstation brand.

These sales are solid, but not that much different from regular Wii or 360 JRPGs and therefore disproves claims that the 360 JRPGs or MH/DQ on Wii would be bad for sales.

 

How does 132K first day translate into 160K first week??? It is perfoming better than ToS:DotNW and it could outsell Blue Dragon's lifetime sales (210K) in its first week. WKC has already outsold every 360 JRPG's first week sales, on its first day. Saying WKC isn't performing much different from the 360 JRPG's is a bit of understatement don't you think?

 

This is a big budget, heavily advertised RPG. Comparing sales with a spin off on the wii and saying since its first day sales beat it that this is a success is crazy. This will not beat the takes sales by that much. Then, compare the budgets. To say this is an accomplishment is crazy.

 

 


 

Ha ha. It's also a new IP. TOS was also heavily advertised. Thing is, most people buy Wiis for Wii Fit, not JRPGs. A fact the Wii crowd try their best to deny.

Its a spin off. Spinoffs never sell what the original sold. Its not a full tales game. Everyone knows this. NMH has been the best selling suda 51 game, ToS has sold more than ToV, FE sold well, Brawl sold well. The problem is that people try and judge wii sales by shitty ports and crap games and then point out that "omg wii cant sell hardcorz". You can deny the fact that wii is winning, but you will be swept away as it begins to get the RPGs and other japenese games. DQ X is only the beginning.

 

I think that it's more so when crappy games or ports sell less than their PS3 or 360 counterparts. Or in the case of Call of Duty, much less.



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