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Kasz216 on 25 December 2008
DMeisterJ said:
Kasz216 said:
DMeisterJ said:
Soriku said:
Who plays MH by themselves? For sure I'm buying the game mostly for online...and other people are too. Yeah, I'll play the singe player, but that's not the main attraction.

I did.

I played them single-player and loved it, and poured over 150 hours into it.

Yet you seem to be in the minority on that if we're to believe why the PSP version did better then the PS2 one.

I know that's why i didn't get a PS2 version.  Was told lots of monsters couldn't be beaten solo.

So it seemed pointless to buy.

It's harder, but not impossible. 

Of course many games are easier with more than one person.

And yet still... Multiplayer is the biggest draw.

Around 50% of survey participants admitted they don't settle for anything less than multiplayer, while over 30% enjoy both online and offline. Only 18% play Monster Hunter games solely for the single player experience. Consequently, some 82% hooked up to download quests available online.

http://pspupdates.qj.net/Famitsu-surveys-Monster-Hunter-fans-they-play-it-online/pg/49/aid/118999

50% of the people who own the game exclusivly play multiplayer!

Kinda blows your argument out of the water.... no?



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DMeisterJ on 25 December 2008
Soriku said:
DMeisterJ said:
Kasz216 said:
DMeisterJ said:
Soriku said:
Who plays MH by themselves? For sure I'm buying the game mostly for online...and other people are too. Yeah, I'll play the singe player, but that's not the main attraction.

I did.

I played them single-player and loved it, and poured over 150 hours into it.

Yet you seem to be in the minority on that if we're to believe why the PSP version did better then the PS2 one.

I know that's why i didn't get a PS2 version.  Was told lots of monsters couldn't be beaten solo.

So it seemed pointless to buy.

It's harder, but not impossible. 

Of course many games are easier with more than one person.

Yet the PSP version was a lot more popular, which would mean people are mostly buying it for online, no?

I'm not too sure.  Could be a multitude of reasons.  Portability, being the most likely.

But the PS2 monster hunters were online games too, therefore they should have sold more.

@ Kasz

Seeing as that it is an online enabled game in JP, and isn't in the west, I'd suspect that playing with someone else would be a major draw.



DMeisterJ on 25 December 2008
Soriku said:

But the PS2 doesn't have good online.

Portability is a reason...but that just means you can play it anywhere online/with friends. Playing with friends is the main reason it's so popular. Single player isn't the main attraction and that's the truth.

I never said Single-player was the main attraction >_>

And the PSP doesn't have good online either. 

You can play the game by yourself to get a feel for the game.  And it's quite easy to do that with the games being old and free was my point.



Kasz216 on 25 December 2008
DMeisterJ said:
Soriku said:
DMeisterJ said:
Kasz216 said:
DMeisterJ said:
Soriku said:
Who plays MH by themselves? For sure I'm buying the game mostly for online...and other people are too. Yeah, I'll play the singe player, but that's not the main attraction.

I did.

I played them single-player and loved it, and poured over 150 hours into it.

Yet you seem to be in the minority on that if we're to believe why the PSP version did better then the PS2 one.

I know that's why i didn't get a PS2 version.  Was told lots of monsters couldn't be beaten solo.

So it seemed pointless to buy.

It's harder, but not impossible. 

Of course many games are easier with more than one person.

Yet the PSP version was a lot more popular, which would mean people are mostly buying it for online, no?

I'm not too sure.  Could be a multitude of reasons.  Portability, being the most likely.

But the PS2 monster hunters were online games too, therefore they should have sold more.

@ Kasz

Seeing as that it is an online enabled game in JP, and isn't in the west, I'd suspect that playing with someone else would be a major draw.

Hence the point... MH3 will be online enabled in the US as far as i know....

Hence... major draw?

Since 50% of the japanese fanbase ONLY play it online... and wouldn't play it singleplayer if it wasn't available.

The article also apparently shows why it's on the Wii.

Monster Hunter has a large female base... and is considered a casual game in japan.

 



DMeisterJ on 25 December 2008
Kasz216 said:
DMeisterJ said:
Soriku said:
DMeisterJ said:
Kasz216 said:
DMeisterJ said:
Soriku said:
Who plays MH by themselves? For sure I'm buying the game mostly for online...and other people are too. Yeah, I'll play the singe player, but that's not the main attraction.

I did.

I played them single-player and loved it, and poured over 150 hours into it.

Yet you seem to be in the minority on that if we're to believe why the PSP version did better then the PS2 one.

I know that's why i didn't get a PS2 version.  Was told lots of monsters couldn't be beaten solo.

So it seemed pointless to buy.

It's harder, but not impossible. 

Of course many games are easier with more than one person.

Yet the PSP version was a lot more popular, which would mean people are mostly buying it for online, no?

I'm not too sure.  Could be a multitude of reasons.  Portability, being the most likely.

But the PS2 monster hunters were online games too, therefore they should have sold more.

@ Kasz

Seeing as that it is an online enabled game in JP, and isn't in the west, I'd suspect that playing with someone else would be a major draw.

Hence the point... MH3 will be online enabled in the US as far as i know....

Hence... major draw?

Since 50% of the japanese fanbase ONLY play it online... and wouldn't play it singleplayer if it wasn't available.

The article also apparently shows why it's on the Wii.

Monster Hunter has a large female base... and is considered a casual game in japan.

So where are we going with this convo?

I don't understand what online being a major draw, which I conceded to, has to do with knowing what you're getting yourself into, and the game being the same?



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Kasz216 on 25 December 2008
Soriku said:
I'd think people who are excited about MH3 are excited about the main attraction--ie. online--over the single player.

Me i care pretty much exclusivly for single player... but i could see how most people wouldn't.

I just don't pick up the PS2 version because i've already got a crapload of games backlogged.

I mean i just bought those Viewtiful Joe games and they're still in the shrinkrap....

Just got Fallout 3, which is an expansive explore your own story type game....

LBP... which is... well a create your own stuff game... so that can take forever content wise.

Mario Kart... Battle mode is always fun... Baloon battlemode anyway.

Oh yeah... and L4D... a shooter that can last for a long time due to the AI director.

 

And i really wanted to play some more Final Fantasy Tactics.

Oh yeah.... and i gotta buy Suikoden.

 



Kasz216 on 25 December 2008
DMeisterJ said:
Kasz216 said:
DMeisterJ said:
Soriku said:
DMeisterJ said:
Kasz216 said:
DMeisterJ said:
Soriku said:
Who plays MH by themselves? For sure I'm buying the game mostly for online...and other people are too. Yeah, I'll play the singe player, but that's not the main attraction.

I did.

I played them single-player and loved it, and poured over 150 hours into it.

Yet you seem to be in the minority on that if we're to believe why the PSP version did better then the PS2 one.

I know that's why i didn't get a PS2 version.  Was told lots of monsters couldn't be beaten solo.

So it seemed pointless to buy.

It's harder, but not impossible. 

Of course many games are easier with more than one person.

Yet the PSP version was a lot more popular, which would mean people are mostly buying it for online, no?

I'm not too sure.  Could be a multitude of reasons.  Portability, being the most likely.

But the PS2 monster hunters were online games too, therefore they should have sold more.

@ Kasz

Seeing as that it is an online enabled game in JP, and isn't in the west, I'd suspect that playing with someone else would be a major draw.

Hence the point... MH3 will be online enabled in the US as far as i know....

Hence... major draw?

Since 50% of the japanese fanbase ONLY play it online... and wouldn't play it singleplayer if it wasn't available.

The article also apparently shows why it's on the Wii.

Monster Hunter has a large female base... and is considered a casual game in japan.

So where are we going with this convo?

I don't understand what online being a major draw, which I conceded to, has to do with knowing what you're getting yourself into, and the game being the same?

Why pay 20 dollars... for a gimped version of something you have to pay 50 dollars for?

That's just adding 70 dollars on to the price if you like it.

Spending 20,(though i've seen it more expensive) so incase you hate it you save 30... is only a net of 10.

It seems rather pointless, a waste of time... and makes the final purchase less fresh.

 



DMeisterJ on 25 December 2008
Kasz216 said:
DMeisterJ said:
Kasz216 said:
DMeisterJ said:
Soriku said:
DMeisterJ said:
Kasz216 said:
DMeisterJ said:
Soriku said:
Who plays MH by themselves? For sure I'm buying the game mostly for online...and other people are too. Yeah, I'll play the singe player, but that's not the main attraction.

I did.

I played them single-player and loved it, and poured over 150 hours into it.

Yet you seem to be in the minority on that if we're to believe why the PSP version did better then the PS2 one.

I know that's why i didn't get a PS2 version.  Was told lots of monsters couldn't be beaten solo.

So it seemed pointless to buy.

It's harder, but not impossible. 

Of course many games are easier with more than one person.

Yet the PSP version was a lot more popular, which would mean people are mostly buying it for online, no?

I'm not too sure.  Could be a multitude of reasons.  Portability, being the most likely.

But the PS2 monster hunters were online games too, therefore they should have sold more.

@ Kasz

Seeing as that it is an online enabled game in JP, and isn't in the west, I'd suspect that playing with someone else would be a major draw.

Hence the point... MH3 will be online enabled in the US as far as i know....

Hence... major draw?

Since 50% of the japanese fanbase ONLY play it online... and wouldn't play it singleplayer if it wasn't available.

The article also apparently shows why it's on the Wii.

Monster Hunter has a large female base... and is considered a casual game in japan.

So where are we going with this convo?

I don't understand what online being a major draw, which I conceded to, has to do with knowing what you're getting yourself into, and the game being the same?

Why pay 20 dollars... for a gimped version of something you have to pay 50 dollars for?

That's just adding 70 dollars on to the price if you like it.

Spending 20,(though i've seen it more expensive) so incase you hate it you save 30... is only a net of 10.

It seems rather pointless, a waste of time... and makes the final purchase less fresh.

Or, you could spend fifty bucks, and not like the game at all.



xlost7 on 25 December 2008

I'm excited for the online portion of MH3. I hope and pray that Capcom makes good use with the Wii's online service. The main attraction of Monster Hunter was clearly the multiplayer aspect.

Reason being the game sold bad in Japan. Online in Japan is really not all that good. That explains Xbox Live there. So really that's a good excuse why the PS2 versions of Monster Hunter flopped. Clearly the hardcore bought it out of single player and some multiplayer but again online was hot in Japan.

As soon as Capcom saw the PSP it was good for online purposes. They released Monster Hunter Freedom. Knowing that Japan loves portable devices it was wise for them to take advantage of both ad-hoc and infrastructure online properties of the PSP.

Clearly we can see that with the massive amounts of software and hardware increases.

The PSP is a portable online device to many in Japan. And knowing that the community there are always near each other sort of a social network, word-to-word began to spread and many people had the game and a PSP. I really think the ad-hoc part of the online service is what drives Monster Hunter PSP games to the high standards. Considering most Japanese students or kids were near their friends and they would stop and get some monster hunting going.

Here in America, it clearly sucks since Capcom thinks it wouldn't work for some odd strange reason.

Online is what makes Monster Hunter appealing to me. I loved Monster Hunter on the PS2. But considering you had to do on-screen messaging instead of text, that clearly made me want to get rid of the game.



outlawauron on 25 December 2008
DMeisterJ said:
Soriku said:
DMeisterJ said:
Kasz216 said:
DMeisterJ said:
Soriku said:
Who plays MH by themselves? For sure I'm buying the game mostly for online...and other people are too. Yeah, I'll play the singe player, but that's not the main attraction.

I did.

I played them single-player and loved it, and poured over 150 hours into it.

Yet you seem to be in the minority on that if we're to believe why the PSP version did better then the PS2 one.

I know that's why i didn't get a PS2 version.  Was told lots of monsters couldn't be beaten solo.

So it seemed pointless to buy.

It's harder, but not impossible. 

Of course many games are easier with more than one person.

Yet the PSP version was a lot more popular, which would mean people are mostly buying it for online, no?

I'm not too sure.  Could be a multitude of reasons.  Portability, being the most likely.

But the PS2 monster hunters were online games too, therefore they should have sold more.

@ Kasz

Seeing as that it is an online enabled game in JP, and isn't in the west, I'd suspect that playing with someone else would be a major draw.

Which is why I believe the game isn't popular in the west. The online either sucks or isn't there.



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