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Shanobi said:

 

Oh, and further on your 5 million dollar development point: MOST GAMES ON THE WII DO NOT COST 5 MILLION TO MAKE. Triple AAA titles, 5-10 million.

 

But most games? 5 Million? Are you serious??? Try more like 1-2 million.

 

 


Lets break down some simple costs per employee, lets make some assumptions,starting with a three year development cycle and one employee.

Bottom Line Employee Annual Salary: $36,000 * 3 = $108,000
Employee Health Insurance per Month $300 * 36 = $10,800
Office space big enough for one employee per month $900 * 36 = $32,400
Marketing in 15 magazines @ $1,000 per page = $15,000
Marketing on 15 websites @ $200 per site = $3,000
Hosting a large video on a high volume web server for a year $1,200
Hosting a large demo on a high volume web server for a year $1,200
Burning 100,000 CD's @ $0.20 each = $20,000
Printing 100,000 Boxes @ $1 each = $100,000
Printing 1,000 Promotional Posters @ $1.50 each = $1,500
Attending E3 to promote the game for 3 years @ $30,000 per year = $90,000

So where are we after three years with one guy impossibly working on a console or AAA title? $381,900 and the game has not even reached the shelf, because only one guy is working on it, and all it has is programmer art and no audio.

Its easy to see, that all you have to do is throw in a
senior programmer ($180,000 over three years),
a beta tester($72,000 for three years),
a graphic designer($150,000 over three years),
and a receptionist ($72,000 over three years)
and your at $855,900,

Oops forgot the health insurance for these people so ad $43,200 and we're at
$899,100 and we haven't even bought computers, software, pencils, telephones or insurance for the office yet.

 

 



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http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSL2287657620070822

 

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Why would developing a Wii game take three years? Even Twilight Princess didn't take that long.



Khuutra said:
Why would developing a Wii game take three years? Even Twilight Princess didn't take that long.

 

LOL.

 

Star Wars: Rogue Squadron II on the Gamecube took 4 months, I believe. But hey, if he/she wants to cling to the idea that it takes 3 years to make Raving Rabbids, then who am I to argue? ;)



 

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Shanobi said:

http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSL2287657620070822

 

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According to the Ubisoft CEO, developing a casual game costs anywhere between 1 million to 4 million euros depending on the number of platforms with which it is compatible. I take it you're refering to this? I guess you can get a lot of flavours of shovelware for $20,000,000 Euros.

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You fail to address the point. And guess what? Many games don't cost more than that.

But hey, ignore everything I proved you wrong with.



 

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I think most of you are insane... this has been an ongoing trend for the past 3 years now... this already happened in Japan... or perhaps you didn't notice that Square Soft is now SquarEnix... buyout, mergers, closing... they have been happening it's just that the credit crunch has pushed some that were teetering on the edge over. Developing for the Wii isn't going to make you magic money. Ubisoft has the right idea about it... you make a brand for the Wii and you treat them as a seperate team. They are the ones who make the strange game that try and compete with Nintendo and every now and then you put something big on the system hoping to pull some people over to more traditional gaming. This is just the evolution of the gaming industry.



Shanobi said:
You fail to address the point. And guess what? Many games don't cost more than that.

But hey, ignore everything I proved you wrong with.

? You talking to me?

Anyway if you are talking to me, that $1,000,000 Euro figure was most likely for the DS as they didn't differentiate between them.

 



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Squilliam said:
Shanobi said:
You fail to address the point. And guess what? Many games don't cost more than that.

But hey, ignore everything I proved you wrong with.

? You talking to me?

Anyway if you are talking to me, that $1,000,000 Euro figure was most likely for the DS as they didn't differentiate between them.

 

 

one million dollar euros?



Cueil said:
Squilliam said:
Shanobi said:
You fail to address the point. And guess what? Many games don't cost more than that.

But hey, ignore everything I proved you wrong with.

? You talking to me?

Anyway if you are talking to me, that $1,000,000 Euro figure was most likely for the DS as they didn't differentiate between them.

 

 

one million dollar euros?

Now all you need to do, is give me your credit card details so we can confirm who you are so we can transfer the money...

Yeah, read the link above it quotes quite a cheap price for the casualz type games from Ubisoft.

 



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