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WiteoutKing on 10 August 2007

And if they aren't into stealth games, then what? They see GTA4 for PS3 and 360. It's cheaper to get a 360 and the game, whether they know about the extra content or not.



PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)

If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.

Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007

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mitsuhide on 10 August 2007

I did say might Witeout so dont get worked up.



End of 2014 Hardware Predictions (03/03/14)

PlayStation 4: 12-15million

Xbox One: 7-10 million

Wii U: 8-9 million (Changed 01/04/2014 from 7-9 --> 8-9 million)

WiteoutKing on 10 August 2007

I'm not getting worked up, just saying that one game's success should not define the sales of a completely unrelated game.



PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)

If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.

Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007

mitsuhide on 10 August 2007

Ok what if casual gamer walks into a store and sees GTAIV(the game they wanted)and........LittleBigPlanet(if its released then),2 casual games that are fun to play.



End of 2014 Hardware Predictions (03/03/14)

PlayStation 4: 12-15million

Xbox One: 7-10 million

Wii U: 8-9 million (Changed 01/04/2014 from 7-9 --> 8-9 million)

jjseth on 10 August 2007

No matter what length of time, it's safe to say that the PS3 will end up outselling the 360. There is just too much support for sony products all around the world instead of just one location like the 360.



 


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Kasz216 on 10 August 2007
superchunk said:
People keep saying that it can't possibly happen ever. They throw out sales numbers that show 600k per month needed,etc. But, many of you seem to have forgotten what just happened with the Wii.

The Wii was also about 5.3m behind the 360 at launch. Now, 9 months later, the Wii is about to pass 360 in total sales. The PS3 is now about 6.2m units behind, given the right combination of demand, it can pass the 360, just like the Wii did. That is why I am saying 65% chance. It will require the games and price to hit the sweet spot for the millions of gamers out there who still have not purchased any nex-gen machine.

The question is can it? Can the PS3 get to the $250 price area at the same time as its probably 2008 killer aps launch? I don't think so. Which is why I lean towards 360 maintaining its lead over PS3. But, I guess we will eventually know.

It would be tough just because the Wii is already clearing out the 250, single console buying consumer market and they both are clearing out the single and double console buying market below the PS3's price.

 Unless these people are waiting for the PS3 to be cheaper and not buying the other systems it's going to be really tough to get that much momentum.  I don't think they do.  That's why the cheapo systems always seem to win in my opinion.



ssj12 on 10 August 2007

I think a lot of people have been turned off of the 360. Remember the Today Show did say not to buy it and the Today Show is watched by how many millions of parents?

The RROD is scaring away customers to the better built Wii and PS3.



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MikeB on 10 August 2007

With future pricecuts, PS2 retirement (PS3 upgrade path), Blu-Ray winning and important exclusive game releases I have no doubt the PS3 will overtake XBox 360 total sales in course of time.

According to VGChartz' data (correct me if wrong), the PS3 managed to do something the XBox 360 has never been able to do thus far, this despite a one year headstart compared to the PS3 and being at a cheaper price tag (less room for future price drops through cost reductions).

The PS3 managaged to outsell the PS2 the last 2 weeks:

Worldwide sales according to VGChartz for the last two reported weeks:

PS3:............... 205,592
PS2:............... 205,389
Xbox 360:...... 113,531



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WiteoutKing on 10 August 2007

Blu-Ray is winning against HD-DVD. But the DVD is still king. Not everyone wants to make the jump to HD discs yet. Not everyone even wants an HDTV yet.

I... wouldn't call 203 units ahead of the PS2 (less than 0.1% more) a very definitive figure.



PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)

If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.

Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007

mitsuhide on 10 August 2007

Good point MikeB when your next gen console can NEVER at least once outsell a console thats seven years old is kind of worrying.I know the difference is only 203 consoles but its still more than the PS2.



End of 2014 Hardware Predictions (03/03/14)

PlayStation 4: 12-15million

Xbox One: 7-10 million

Wii U: 8-9 million (Changed 01/04/2014 from 7-9 --> 8-9 million)